Odds are you would be staring down the barrel either way. You can die kneeling or fighting back. The choice is yours, but you can still end up dead either way.

The 2A crowd opposed to the current regime isn’t declaring war for the same reasons the people bold enough to cry out loud “please, now is the time to shoot these people” don’t find the stones to do it themselves. Nobody wants to be the first. Nobody wants to risk winding up in a sting trying to recruit/join others. Nobody wants to go it alone and end up a crazed, lone gunman that maybe clips one head off the hydra before their own brains are splattered by a sniper team and their family is left with a closed casket and the shame of whatever propaganda gets cooked up to explain their actions. “He was a bad dude. A real bad guy. It has been said he had terabytes of transvestite furotica and a pet cat named Karl. He once took a picture of a rainbow. A disgusting man.” Then, two weeks and two fresh heads later, the media cycle has moved on and the world is just a little worse than before.

It’s not worth it if they’re still comfortable. It’s not even worth it if there’s a sliver of hope to continue eking out a tolerably miserable existence - “at least I’m not dead.” They’ll carry on until there’s a knock at their door then either go out in a hail of gunfire or hand over their arms and freedom because “False, indefinite imprisonment? At least I’m not dead.”

That was mostly directed at OP, who is welcome to show us how it’s done. To your own point - Years ago, and probably still, “tanks and drones” was a routine troll over on /k/ and the answer to it is always “Asymmetric Warfare.” You don’t go toe-to-toe and fist fight the wrecking ball swinging toward you. You blast the tracks off the crane. You hydrolock the engine. You make people too scared to sit in the operator’s seat. Guerilla tactics, sabotage, etc.

You also don’t police with military drones. You surveil and exact precision strikes. The second the American military launches missiles at Americans in America, we’ll have that civil war that nobody with a brain actually wants. In our current political climate I genuinely believe that would kick things off. Point of no return, war were declared, hope you stockpiled canned goods and water because the supply chain is getting disrupted.

As for tanks, you can ruin the streets with them to stick them on the corners but it’ll only be a show of force - an intimidation tactic. Tanks are rolling shields for infantry and other equipment, with a few bullet hoses and a big gun to blast encampments and other tanks. They also need those same foot soldiers, willing to kill their fellow citizens, to defend them from folks flinging molotovs or dropping DIY explosives down the barrel.

If you’ve got a water jug of pre-1982 pennies, that you haven’t been bothered turning into pizza and beer or selling for the slightly higher scrap value, and you never stared at it and thought “I could smelt these down into cones because… I just really like the shape of cones,” you’re not trying hard enough to break the illusion that you’re already defeated.

This is the most ignorant shit. The AR-15 doesn’t stop a tank. It’s not supposed to stop a tank. When people are armed and everywhere, they can attack logistics everywhere. They can cut off fuel supply to that tank. They can prevent the crew from exciting that tank. They can take out the infantry that is supporting that tank and then plant a bomb on that blind-ass rolling bunker. Small arms are still enormously important in warfare and all you’re proving is that you know absolutely nothing about warfare.

Some dude’s AR-15 is not going to stop a tank.

You don’t use the AR-15 on the tank. You use it on the people involved in the logistics chain. If that tank doesn’t have a driver, mechanics, fuel, spare parts, etc then the tank is useless. Insurgencies in far away lands didn’t have this option but an insurgency at home certainly would.

Ask the US military how effective the tanks were in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Vietnam.

You know, the last three wars the US has been in and totally not lost.

As someone who would have agreed with you this time last year, my new AR-15 may not stop a tank, but it can slow down the anonymous gestapo if they try to abduct my neighbors and loved ones.

2nd amendment people thinking they have a chance against the US army. Maybe update the law so it is legal to own nuclear weapons so you can keep your government in check.

One of the best responses to kirk’s death said something like “This is like writing an obituary of Joseph Goebbels that goes ‘Gobbels was a gifted marketer and father of six children’”

nah, i think they’re just relaxing a bit like “finally”

Were you under the misapprehension that only the right is armed? We on the left just STFU about it.

Yeah, meanwhile, it’s a volunteer service thought police out there. If you don’t fawn over CK, you lose your job.

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I am armed every time I’m outside my front door, never acted like this in my life and I’m mad as hell it’s come to this. I have a legal, brown, immigrant wife and I’m a loud-mouthed liberal, in a very red corner of Florida. Might say I got a dog in this fight.

And for the suburban white boys out there, you’ll get it once it’s too late.

I bought guns when I was a conservative because I wanted to fight what I perceived as a tyrannical government.

I retain those same guns as a progressive because I fear the government has now become tyrannical and will need to fight it in my life time.

I guess that shit is just in the water here in the US.

The United States was founded with the help of private firearms and it’s citizens have always distrusted and disliked their own Government. What you’re talking about is literally baked into the fabric of our culture.

Meanwhile, showing a cop your gun is a recognized form of suicide.

Meh, it’s all about where you are. I could wander around open carrying a firearm here in Wyoming and have little or no trouble. If I tried it in a liberal area of the country, for example Denver, I’d almost certainly have a problem.

It’s all about the culture of the area.