Signing in with a Microsoft account is too high a price to pay. Mandatory system-wide logins are my nemesis. I use LineageOS without Google for that same reason.
windows 10 is not dead yet💔💔 ugh come on
Still need a Microsoft account, but that gives many people one more year of breathing space. And who knows, maybe in this year the ridiculous hardware requirements for 11 might fall as well?
I still can’t believe millions of functioning hardware will be destroyed for this shit.
And no, the average computer user won’t switch to Linux, no. Sadly, but it is what it is.
I mean, the hardware will keep functioning.
At most in a few years once businesses run out of ESU updates it will get cheap to buy discarded office PCs again and a handful of youtube channels will make some fun videos about it.
When your business model is “fuck your air gap” you can go fuck yourself.
Seriously. What the fucking fuck.
Even if the HW reqs drop for Win11, it’s still a trash bloat/spy/adware filled system.
I just upgraded from Win10 to Debian on my primary/gaming desktop; every game I’ve played in the last 4 years in my Steam library is listed as compatible, most things I do on my computer are either a website, a game, or an application with a native Linux version or good wine compatibility.
As a personal user who does a wide variety of things on my computer, I don’t really need Windows anymore. I’m dual booting for the time being as I configure things, but I’m quickly running out of reasons to use the old Win10 partition. And all the weird slowdowns it was exhibiting? Totally absent in Linux. I expected performance to be a wash, but it’s noticeably improved.
Same. I’m using CachyOS and never looked back
And all the weird slowdowns it was exhibiting? Totally absent in Linux. I expected performance to be a wash, but it’s noticeably improved.
Things loading notably faster on Linux was not my expectation either, but it certainly is the case. My theory is the Windows AV randomly attacks things, and when it does, shit just sloooowwws down.
Already made the jump on my kids laptop. They’re now fedoristas.
Clearly the requirements will not drop. But due to the passage of time, they aren’t quite as ridiculous anymore. The last machines that didn’t meet the requirements were made in 2017. It’s not unreasonable to require a device that’s less than 8 years old. Most individuals upgrade more often than that anyway.
Yes, it would be preferable to keep the older ones in service. But it’s a smaller pool than you think, and most of them will actually stay in use but unpatched.
For home users this is absolutely a problem that fixes itself on the next hardware refresh and is almost entirely irrelevant until then.
The hype about it is so out of proportion.
I still can’t believe millions of functioning hardware will be destroyed for this shit.
My mate,
half of my Network setup is currently running on 2 Fujitsu Futro S920s from over 20 Years ago, with 4 Gigs oft RAM and 8 Gigs of Memory, which I got thrown at for 10€ a piece. By how much Metal is in that thing, It would have been better for him to just recycle the 1,3kg of Steel and throw away the 10x10cm PCB in it. If some madman from eBay has hoarded that thing for years just for me, it won’t be different in 10 years for the next 100% certified autist stepping in my footsteps.
These PCs won’t be destroyed. The amount of 12 year old Autistic trans IT Linux evangeliststm will just increase exponentially.
It’s not about individuals, it’s about businesses. Many companies will not bother to sell any of these. The HDDs and SSDs will go into a chipper (for security reasons) and the rest will go into the dumpster. Dealing with old machines like this isn’t worth the salary to pay an employee to sell them, nor is it worth the headache to make sure that employee is selling them in a compliant way.
Most go to a tech recycler. They pay their client a pittance for the old equipment, then they refurbish/resell it on places like eBay. Yes, the SSD is often destroyed, and usually the mounting bracket with it. But the rest is fully functional and readily available.
If you want to see this firsthand, just go to eBay and search for “Thinkpad T490”. These are about 5 years old now, and at the end of the corporate lifecycle. They were also a very popular corporate device, and very rare for individual consumers. You will see an absolute ton of these, and mostly from recyclers. But they originally came from places like Coca-Cola and Chase.
I’m self employed and bought a T480 last year for work. Still runs like a dream with pop os, only downside is that it started complaining about the third party battery I bought.
That is already happening with top shelf Hardware, see a youtuber like Salem tech
