The addition of copper tools in the next update (which I’m assuming will be somewhere between stone and iron) has me wondering what the benefit is to creating tools that fit on the lower end of the already existing tier list of materials. Like, I’m glad to see copper get some actual usable recipes, but stone to iron isn’t exactly a long lasting gap even with the modern ore distributions, so the use case for these new tools is fairly non-existent.

Unless…

If copper tools (and the other materials) had perks that improved gameplay in meaningful ways, there’d be a reason to keep those old tools outside of the 5 minutes it takes to get the next material (another use-case of the new shelves being added, as well). I’m not clever enough to come up with what each material should get, but I’m sure there are good ideas out there. At the very least, it would give some possibility of new materials that are more than just “mines faster/hits harder than [material we added last update].”

  • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    2 days ago

    There was a mod probably 5 years back now, I believe it was called Tinker’s Toolkit, where you could build the handle, tool head, etc out of different materials which effected the functionality and stats like you’re looking for (on top of a little bit of minor random modifiers). It even had support for new wood and other materials from other popular mods.

  • vateso5074@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    There is only one set that sorta works this way in theory, which is gold. Often faster than the diamond/netherite equivalents, but significantly lower durability, and has that bonus effect of pacifying pigmen.

    I don’t think we’d need to get carried away on effects too much, but here’s adjustments I’d propose:

    • Wood - Keep as is. This should be the baseline “bad” starter set, doesn’t do anything special.

    • Nether Wood - Identical to wood in strength, but has the durability of iron. This is your “Oh no I’m trapped in the Nether and my tools broke” fallback. Like netherite, does not burn in lava.

    • Stone - Keep as-is, though maybe change the materials it can collect. I think it’s easier for kids to grasp that ore in stone can be mined with stone, and then have it be that ore in deepslate cannot be mined with stone.

    • Copper - Identical to stone in strength, but has the durability of current iron to make it feel like an upgrade.

    • Iron - Strength stays as-is, but double its current durability to make it feel like a more impactful upgrade from copper.

    • Gold - keep as-is.

    • Diamond - double its current durability to make it feel like more of an upgrade over Iron.

    • Netherite - does not break, ever.