Hello, I’m a man, I’m not riled up by this post. I even looked through her profile and did my very best to get angry, alas, it was mostly just memes, usually without political contact anyways.
I mean, Butterfly does post some things that are kinda “all men are bastards” from time to time, but it’s not every post, and there is an unspoken understanding that if you are not one of those people, then the joke or the post doesn’t apply to you.
Some of her, (assuming since she is “Lady Butterfly”) posts have actually triggered me, making me go, “I’m not one of these people. Why are you posting stuff like this?” So I kind of get it. I had to step back and really process to understand.
The subtlety gets lost sometimes, but if you’re not one of the bastards, then the statement doesn’t apply to you.
Maybe some of these people need to be reminded that they are not being picked on for being born male, they are hearing the rage of people who were being picked on for being born female.
there is an unspoken understanding that if you are not one of those people, then the joke or the post doesn’t apply to you.
The subtlety gets lost sometimes, but if you’re not one of the bastards, then the statement doesn’t apply to you.
But it does apply to you, you even admit it. Maybe we should just condemn all sweeping generalizations? Nobody should have to deal with being triggered because someone is raging against your race, gender, nationality, etc
“girls were being mean on the internet so now I’m a fascist” is a terrible argument and you should feel bad for attempting to legitimize it. You can criticize women without blaming them for all your problems, you know.
I agree this post is fine, and ‘all men are bastards’ isn’t. Yes, it likely comes from a lot of repressed rage after a lifetime of misogyny, but that doesn’t change the fact that she is posting this on a platform that is predominantly feminist-leaning men, and this message only serves to hurt the very people who would care enough to introspect on it.
It’s also regressive message dressed in a feminist trench coat, because the idea that ‘all men are bastards’ deprives men agency over themselves, and by extent responsibility over anything they say or do. The idea that ‘men are just like this, you should know better’ is a common victim blaming tactic. So really, saying this is helping noone and hurting everyone.
No, they should stop posting the shit. Is decisive and feeding the fascism train. All the subtly and nuance of these conversations is lost and it ends up every fucking time everyone vs white men. Zero empathy for a child growing up just hearing how he is the reason for everyones woes and problems his entire life. Getting more mad with every post that doesn’t describe him or his friends. Made fun of and called a pussy because he likes trucks.
And then this place wonders where these men who now hate everyone else and feel attacked come from.
It’s like watching the US bomb Afghanistan and Vietnam and expecting the populace to magically become democratic.
I don’t have an answer how you fix this shit but constantly blaming white men and looking for boogymen to hang with purity tests ain’t fucking it.
Nah, I’ll typically head to the real world where words have consequences and usually people will think twice about what they’re saying. This place is just filled to the brim with the most angry disenfranchised population, it’s rare to find any sort of moderate opinion trying to demonize the imaginary enemies or someone who isn’t running some sort of political purity test.
She’s just sexist. She posts sexist shit to rile men up every day. It’s a game to her. She’s sitting in her seat laughing at all the angry men.
Hello, I’m a man, I’m not riled up by this post. I even looked through her profile and did my very best to get angry, alas, it was mostly just memes, usually without political contact anyways.
It’s says ‘if you’re a man who thinks it’s funny to make misogynistic jokes’.
If you’re a normal man, why would you be riled up by this? In what way is she being sexist?
I’ll assume you’re reading this as ‘all men make misogynistic jokes’, which is not what she wrote at all.
I mean, Butterfly does post some things that are kinda “all men are bastards” from time to time, but it’s not every post, and there is an unspoken understanding that if you are not one of those people, then the joke or the post doesn’t apply to you.
Some of her, (assuming since she is “Lady Butterfly”) posts have actually triggered me, making me go, “I’m not one of these people. Why are you posting stuff like this?” So I kind of get it. I had to step back and really process to understand.
The subtlety gets lost sometimes, but if you’re not one of the bastards, then the statement doesn’t apply to you.
Maybe some of these people need to be reminded that they are not being picked on for being born male, they are hearing the rage of people who were being picked on for being born female.
But it does apply to you, you even admit it. Maybe we should just condemn all sweeping generalizations? Nobody should have to deal with being triggered because someone is raging against your race, gender, nationality, etc
God forbid we stop feeding the fascism train.
“girls were being mean on the internet so now I’m a fascist” is a terrible argument and you should feel bad for attempting to legitimize it. You can criticize women without blaming them for all your problems, you know.
I agree this post is fine, and ‘all men are bastards’ isn’t. Yes, it likely comes from a lot of repressed rage after a lifetime of misogyny, but that doesn’t change the fact that she is posting this on a platform that is predominantly feminist-leaning men, and this message only serves to hurt the very people who would care enough to introspect on it.
It’s also regressive message dressed in a feminist trench coat, because the idea that ‘all men are bastards’ deprives men agency over themselves, and by extent responsibility over anything they say or do. The idea that ‘men are just like this, you should know better’ is a common victim blaming tactic. So really, saying this is helping noone and hurting everyone.
No, they should stop posting the shit. Is decisive and feeding the fascism train. All the subtly and nuance of these conversations is lost and it ends up every fucking time everyone vs white men. Zero empathy for a child growing up just hearing how he is the reason for everyones woes and problems his entire life. Getting more mad with every post that doesn’t describe him or his friends. Made fun of and called a pussy because he likes trucks.
And then this place wonders where these men who now hate everyone else and feel attacked come from.
It’s like watching the US bomb Afghanistan and Vietnam and expecting the populace to magically become democratic.
I don’t have an answer how you fix this shit but constantly blaming white men and looking for boogymen to hang with purity tests ain’t fucking it.
I’m a man but I’m not going to come into woman centric community and start defending misogynistic “humour” like come one, dude.
If you get riled up by this, maybe her posts are a needed breeze of fresh air in your feed.
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Nah, I’ll typically head to the real world where words have consequences and usually people will think twice about what they’re saying. This place is just filled to the brim with the most angry disenfranchised population, it’s rare to find any sort of moderate opinion trying to demonize the imaginary enemies or someone who isn’t running some sort of political purity test.