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    Vote in the midterms and FUCKING VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES.

    Whether you like it or not, FPTP makes 3rd parties mathematically unviable in general elections.

    If you want to move the Democrat party leftward (which is, politically, the only option now), the only way to do that is to vote for progressives in the primaries. They do exist. Research them in your state, lobby and volunteer for them, and get them in the primaries. Then show up for them.

    If we’d been doing this instead of protest voting in the generals or abstaining, we wouldn’t be having to cope with a weakened and corporate Dem party. Shockingly, you actually do have the power to move things if you get involved.

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    With his recent declaration of war on the left and his ILLEGAL withholding of Congressionally approved funds to only blue states, it’s wild to realize that we are actually experiencing a treasonous president (and party) and this cuck of a country isn’t doing a fucking thing about it.

    To live your whole life hearing some “home of the free, land of the brave” bullshit, just to find out that it was exactly that. Bullshit.

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      this cuck of a country isn’t doing a fucking thing

      Think of how many have lives have been lost because of a lack of sensible gun laws, all for the lie “we need all these guns in case we have to stop a tyrannical dictator from trying to take over the country”

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    I think it is pretty obvious why the government is shut down, it’s because Joe Biden signed documents with an Autopen, obviously…

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    They play buzzword bingo. There’s no truth behind anything they say. Problem? Say that phrases “Democrats” “Joe Biden” “Hilary’s Email”. People don’t think about this stuff logically (mostly because their education has been defunded).

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    The Democrats want to

    1. Extend healthcare subsidies that were put into place during the pandemic. Allowing these to expire would raise everyone’s monthly healthcare premium.

    2. Challenge new restrictions introduced in the “big, beautiful bill” which seeks to exclude able bodied “working age” individuals from Medicaid benefits. 12 million low income individuals are on track to lose coverage.

    Sidebar: John Oliver has covered this but… the way this system works is you lose coverage by default and then have to submit paperwork monthly to prove you are working. Its been shown time and time again that state governments do not have the administrative capacity to handle that amount of documentation so even if you are eligible you will likely spend most of your time uninsured and in administrative limbo.

    1. Challenge immigration enrollment restrictions that aim to prevent immigrants from accessing Medicaid benefits (everyone who works in the US [including immigrants] pay into Medicaid).

    Republicans don’t want to include those provisions in the budget. Instead they want to talk about them later. We all know what that means.

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    Well when your voters are dumb as shit, then just saying yep Democrats fault they know their base will accept their word.

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    It worked out PERFECTLY for the GOP.

    They can refuse to swear in the new democrat Adelita Grijalv into the house for the 218th vote to release the epstein files that Johnson and Trump are ALL over.

    It also gives them a new way to fire thousands of more federal “left leaning” employees.

    It also gives them optics with their voter base that democrats hate america and want people to suffer, and they eat it up.

    Meanwhile, the rest of the country who are based in reality know this is 100% republicans fault and a way to delay the epstien files and hurt the american public even more. At the same time calling for war on american citizens who don’t bow down to the dictator.

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        I mean they think democrats are communists, and the green energy movement has more money and benefits than oil companies. Its not surprising so many of them think dinosaurs were killed by the flood from the noah’s ark story less than 5,000 years ago and that donald trump is fighting for them.

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      They can refuse to swear in the new democrat Adelita Grijalv into the house for the 218th vote

      Ya thats great for them, but you know whats ever greater?? Dissolving congress… which I bet trump will try and do, then the Epstein files will literally never be released.

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        fascism /făsh′ĭz″əm/

        noun

        1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
        2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
        3. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

        You are, in fact, wrong.

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            So according to your logic Hitler only became a fascist once he completed restructuring the state to fit his ideology. Before that he was not a fascist?

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                But it would be a very showing sign if you started listing the steps Trump is taking to do so! Oh you can’t because he isn’t? Oh

                Oh I can. Everybody with eyes and ears can. And you are lucky I have nothing to do for a moment.

                Let’s take your own list.

                Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader (kinda one tick, he wants to be but isn’t ), centralized autocracy(nope, he holds no absolute authority),

                You said it yourself, he openly wants to be a dictator. He directly said that he wants to stay president in at least a third term. And that elections will not be needed in the future. And we know he is obsessed with personal loyalty. And from a german perspective I can tell you that the powers that a regular US president has are already borderline dictatorial at best. Executive orders, ordering military actions without oversight, full legal immunity, pardons, most of the “checks and balances” can just be ignored as Trump does, etc. Those things are insane and it is a wonder that no US president ever transformed the USA into a full dictatorship. He does not have to take any steps towards becoming a dictator, because the only necessary step is declaring that there are no term limits. The rest of his powers are already at a level that wannabe-dictators in other countries dream of. And here you have a guy that openly tells you what he wants to do with those.

                militarism(no, wants to conquer but can’t),

                when he came to power he immediately ordered a military parade and tried to pressure other countries to join the USA (Greenland, Canada). Do you think Hitler just decided to invade a neighbour one morning? No, it was preceded by a lot of pressuring those same neighbours and internal propaganda to prepare the populace for war.

                forcible suppression of opposition(nope),

                he deployed the national guard in cities that had large protests against him. He encouraged censoring people that spoke against him on television. Yesterday he threatened to specifically hurt democratic states if the democrats do not agree to his budget plan.

                belief in a natural social hierarchy(nupe),

                His racism and misogyny are not enough for you? You need super-racism?

                subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race(nope, only his interest),

                do you know what the word “perceived” means? The “interest of the nation” is just a pretext to rally support for personal interest and it has been the same in the 1930s

                and strong regimentation of society and the economy(hahaha, no)

                Historians and other scholars disagree on the question of whether a specifically fascist type of economic policy can be said to exist. David Baker argues that there is an identifiable economic system in fascism that is distinct from those advocated by other ideologies, comprising essential characteristics that fascist nations shared.[302] Payne, Paxton, Sternhell et al. argue that while fascist economies share some similarities, there is no distinctive form of fascist economic organization.[303][304][305] Gerald Feldman and Timothy Mason argue that fascism is distinguished by an absence of coherent economic ideology and a lack of serious economic thinking. They state that the decisions taken by fascist leaders cannot be explained within a logical economic framework.[306] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

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                  Ok, but like other than all that, what evidence do you have!? Ha, checkmate liberal!!

                  :P

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                  For one IQ is not a measurement of objective intelligence but on the highly trainable skill of pattern recognition

                  For two yea! Not forming your opinion on your groups rhetoric is well… no it’s actually not any harder… Hm, I actually do wonder why do you need Tramp to be fascist

                  You should really try farming internet points on a platform that actually counts them! Maybe reddit?

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            Because it’s fucking obvious. I don’t need to say so. Guess what simping for fascists makes you.

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              That person is banned now but it will always be funny that some do not accept the label that - if you read any definition of it - perfectly fits. The things they actively strive for.

              It’s an Emperor’s New Clothes situation: everyone sees it but you’re not allowed to say it.

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    We can count on the liberal media to report “both sides” of this situation as usual.

    That’s how we got here.

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    I find this argument to be disingenuous because the truth is that the Republicans don’t have enough control to pass an appropriation bill without Democrat consent.

    Telling the true story makes the Republicans look just as bad, though. The things that the Democrats are demanding are things that are obviously good and very popular. Like not making the US healthcare system even worse.

    So, why distort the truth when the truth is already in the Democrats’ favor in this case?

    EDIT: Since there seems to be a lot of confusion on this point, I’ll try to explain the relevant US senate rules. The reason why Republicans don’t have full control of the senate is because for most types of legislation, they need 60 votes to invoke cloture, forcing a vote (at which point only a simple majority is needed to pass the bill).

    There are limited exceptions to that, including budget reconciliation bills that modify the current budget. The “Big Beautiful Bill” that they passed earlier was such a budget reconciliation bill, so it was only allowed to do things that modify the budget (some provisions they tried to include were struck down for not meeting that standard and therefore requiring 60 vote cloture).

    The bill they are trying to pass now is an appropriations bill that actually funds the government, which is not an exception to the cloture rule. Their version of the bill is considered a “clean” continuing resolution because it continues funding with no modifications, but they have already modified the funding earlier with the BBB without getting Democrat approval, so the Democrats rightly don’t approve of continuing with that budget. The Democrats want Republicans to negotiate with them like they are supposed to, and to make concessions primarily on healthcare funding (which the BBB drastically cut).

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      The reason why 2/3 votes are required is to force budget bill that isn’t decided by just one party.

      Republicans decided to create bill without including Democrats in negotiations and then expecting them to vote for it.

      Like WTF?

      The shutdown is 100% fault of GOP.

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      I don’t agree. It’s not like a case of the Democrats holding the Republicans hostage over an extreme measure of some sort. The Republicans basically did no negotiation at all. The bill proposed was so horrendous as to force a number of Democrats to hold hard. We all know if Republicans had budge just a little bit they would have passed this thing. So no I don’t agree this distorts the truth, this is the truth the Republican shut it down. It was on purpose. This was the plan.

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        It’s a fair point.

        Prior to Trump, every time a Republican president took power they would make a little speech about how “now it’s time for unity” and look sideways across the aisle at the Democrats.

        With Trump that speech was more like “our political opponents, who are subhuman, can eat my fist and die.”

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        The part that I find disingenuous is the argument that the Republicans control every branch of government and that’s why the shutdown is their fault. The shutdown is their fault, but not for that reason.

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          I understand your point, but you kind of argued against yourself here:

          but they have already modified the funding earlier with the BBB without getting Democrat approval, so the Democrats rightly don’t approve of continuing with that budget.

          Essentially, Republicans used their majority to make changes without Democratic approval or negotiation. Now they’ve reached a point where they actually need that approval or negotiation to continue. They could easily take out the changes they made unilaterally earlier and pass this. Instead, they’re playing the blame game saying “we can’t pass this ourselves, we need Democrats to vote for it.”

          That’d be like if I broke into your house, stole your TV, then said “I just need you to sign this document saying everything in your house is as it should be” and then blamed you for not signing.

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      It’s not easy to stand up to emotionally gratifying memes to elucidate the subtle realities of what’s actually going on. Kudos to you. I hope you have an amazing day.

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        This age doesn’t value reason, facts, or logic. But so many old school intellectuals think reason, facts, and logic are going to save them. They will not. It’s time to adjust your sails, because the wind has changed.

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          The same thing has happened several times in the past. Each time that there is a mass media revolution it comes with a surge in misinformation and emotional, populist rhetoric. Around the time of WW2 the new communication medium was radio, now it is the internet.

          The shift away from reason and factuality is a transient effect. Things will swing back towards factuality as people adjust to the new medium. In the meantime, emotional, populist messages are required, but they don’t have to be false ones. There are messages that can emotionally resonate with people that are also true. Take Zohran Mamdani’s campaign, for instance.

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      the republicans can pass whatever bill they want that dont need a supermajority , they are currently just shutting down to avoid the epstein files, since they have MAJORITY and a couple of dinos willing to vote on bills with the gop. dems dont get to be blame this time. plus the gop dint show up in congress too.

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      Only due to Senate rules that they regularly like to blow up, but in this situation have decided that Senate rules are suddenly sacrosanct. Normally, they can only use reconciliation on a budget item once per year, per Senate rules, and they used that to pass One Beautiful Bill. They could nuke the rule and then do it as often as they like, but now they’re suddenly institutionalists?

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      The “truth” you’ve stated here, regardless of its basis in fact or not, is too complex for the average American.

      I’m just saying. The majority of y’all voted for the leopards then bitched when the leopards ate your collective faces.

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        Majority of us did NOT vote for that. You can say a majority of voters did, but certainly not a majority of the citizens. Each party only got about ⅕ of the populations vote. 20% isn’t a majority

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          At that point I feel like we’re splitting hairs.

          If you don’t vote, you implicitly agree with whatever outcome is decided by those that do.

          If you want your voice to be counted, you should go and vote.

          And in saying that, I understand that some places are actively making it difficult for some people to actually submit their votes… But the 3/5ths not voting, is not accounted for by that one difficultly.

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        If the average American doesn’t understand it, then it is better to attempt to change that then it is to just lie about it. Lying about it makes the Democrats look like liars and cowards to those savvy enough to know the difference, when the truth makes them look plenty righteous. If they went with the true story, they would look good to those who are savvy and the summary that trickles down to the average American would still make them sound good while also teaching them to be slightly less ignorant.

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      Don’t they though? They have (slim) majorities in both chambers, can’t they push this through if they really wanted?

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          60 votes are not required. That’s for cloture to end a filibuster.

          The filibuster is not in the constitution nor a law, its merely a rule that can be changed at any time and the rule change itself cannot be filibustered. vance could also preside over the senate and ignore the parliamentarian.

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        They could if they can whip enough republicans to change the filibuster rules, or just get vance to preside over the senate and to ignore the parliamentarian. They never did that because “norms and traditions”.

        But this party that’s ignoring the constitution for the past few months… and somehow “norms and traditions” suddenly matters now… 🧐

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          If they wanted to pass this they can change the rules which only requires a simple majority. They want to keep the current rules because it allows them to shut down the Dems when they are in power and Reps are fine with the government being shut down since their goal is to gut it anyway.

          There is no reason for Reps to change the status quo, because this is what they want.

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      Because most Muriocans have no idea how their gov works, what is happening ATM or how it affects them… also, they do not care unless there is literally something poking them in the eye

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      Hell I would be watching that shit on PPV, so would much of the world. You wanna raise trillions of dollars there USA, thats how you do it.

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      Just watched it again earlier this week and i actually got sad/angry when they introduce Presiden Cumacho’s cabinet members. It’s identical to our cabinet. Except their secretary of education was better than ours.

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        Dude I watched it in the past year and I was surprised how much better it was than when I first watched it in the 2000s. It’s incredible how stupid we are.

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        IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PROPHETIC!!!

        I see a few other things in that movie coming true, like the tat Not, Sure received, the food kiosks that drug you when violent, can’t wait for that movie “Ass” or the tv line up