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“I guess I can offer perspective because I’m the comms manager,” Ingham says. “The thing is, when people are telling us to go kill ourselves, I’m the person reading that. Or when people are saying, ‘Fuck management,’ I’m the person reading that. Management aren’t the ones reading that. We talk about the fans valuing workers, but the abuse they’re sending comes to the workers.”
OK, but “Fuck management” is pretty clear even if you’re the one reading it, no?
It’s also just a shut-up line in the absence of an alternative to attack management.
Yeah, there seems to be a background of class-collaborationism here. The employees do what they have to to get on with their lives, which is only fair, but the relationship with management seems suspiciously incestuous for a newly-unionized workplace.
Obviously it’s extremely bad to tell workers to kill themselves, but following that with a defence of management makes me think that some of the “kill yourself” comments may have had some missing context, like… someone they were explicitly directed at. Again, people who hurl abuse at workers online should find a better hobby.
The thing is, I’m okay with this comms person saying that just generically posting “kys” is bad and maybe even actually abusive to employees as they say, but they aren’t giving detractors a way of attacking management, just saying that the existing ways are all wrong, which is equivalent to them posing themselves as a human shield and saying “You can’t attack management, you’ll just be hitting me, and I’m just a worker. You wouldn’t attack a worker would you? Not a good look, sweaty.”
At that point, in the absence of being able to have a conversation with them to get a better answer out of them, I think the correct answer is to say fuck it and treat them as management, because they are treating themselves as management’s protective shell anyway.
which is equivalent to them posing themselves as a human shield and saying “You can’t attack management, you’ll just be hitting me, and I’m just a worker. You wouldn’t attack a worker would you? Not a good look, sweaty.”
Exactly. How can a union possibly be taken seriously when this is their first public action?
skill issue honestly. go forward that shit to management so they read it
huh. They weren’t an union to begin with? It’s horribly ironic that a studio that made disco Elysium would end up having to fight for unionisation
There was a shakeup before and like half of them left, including the old project leads, so I’m not sure how it reflects on the original state.
cool i guess but there will never be a DE2 and there shouldn’t be. go read sacred and terrible air nerds
The most Disco thing about it all tbh.
I am very happy and excited about whatever the ex-Zaum ppl in their various own groups will make in the future.
The Summer Eternal crowdfunding thingy is literally the first time ever I spent money on pre-ordering something video game related ~w~
(yes I did the Deluxe thingy, was kindof an impulse buy but I don’t regret it)
