Just like 3rd party candidates come around every 4 years

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I’d imagine they have enough munitions and suppliers for it not to matter, and doing so will simply deteriorate relations, causing the US to hold less sway with its one ally in the region.

Nah, that’s too nuanced - just don’t give them guns and they’ll stop.

You answered the prescient question - “months.” They need to work a base down ballot first so they can actually get anything done in Congress. No one wants to do the groundwork and thinks if we just elect a 3rd party candidate in the highest office everything else will follow.

Wat a pipe dream.

Yeah, good thing I’m not a single-issue voter with a vote to waste.

Yeah, see, I think they have polled Democrats and have probably found it’s not a winning strategy, whether by number of possible voters gained vs lost, or ranked importance of the issues.

I think they recognize the backlash of losing the democratic Jewish vote is larger than the gain of standing on principle on a difficult diplomatic situation that the public doesn’t have the attention span to follow. Undecided voters are typically low-info voters, so a dissertation on the Middle East situation is a no-go.

Don’t get me wrong, I think what Israel is doing is genocide and we shouldn’t support it, but I also understand if voters in America care more about not getting evicted, going bankrupt, bodily autonomy, or food security more so than a conflict half way around the world.

Also this is on-line with our stance in WW2 prior to Pearl Harbor - we didn’t want to fight an active war despite knowing about the genocide occurring.

I disagree. Your voice is your vote, no? So you’re going to speak on Nov 5th without giving anyone a chance to respond, thus letting Trump be elected?

If not Nov 5th with your vote, then surely all of these antiwar types are protesting in the street and pinging their reps about it?

A little too obvious trolling. Gotta time it down a bit if you’re gonna sell the con.

What a lazy take.

What other options are there in a FPTP system?

Man, I feel like this comment doesn’t take the election process in America into account. Sure you could vote 3rd party and have a clean conscience, but it’s at the cost of the worst of two options gaining power.

Agree to disagree then. Thanks for the exchange.

To be clear - the “leftists” I mentioned above aren’t really leftists. Next time I’ll add the /s next to it to be clear. The whole point of the post was to call out bad faith actors.

Then you came in missing the point.

Now as I understand it, you’re suggesting I word my posts better so you catch the sarcasm?

Nah, fam. Thanks though.

Thanks for telling me what my point was, dipshit.

Yeah, super ignorant take that purported lefties on Lemmy are playing spoiler under the guise of condemning genocide.

The post was for astroturfing fucks on Lemmy. Way to miss the point.

Absolutely no disagreement there. I don’t condone genocide, and think we should do something about it but I’m not foolish enough to think not voting for the lesser of two evils accomplishes this. We are in agreement.

C’mon enlightened lefties! Come on and tell me how you won’t be voting for genocide and we should follow so the Democrats figure out through losing the election that they should court lefties. Nevermind we get 4 years of, “he’s doing a good job” as long as Democrats learn to denounce genocide.

C’mon you fucking cowards, get in here and sell me on how Trump winning helps solve your single issue voting on genocide.

I mean, for starters this argument states as fact a number of points that are questionable. Sure, I’ll grant the US holds Israel up as a strategic point in the Middle East. We do the same around the world and so do other nations in support of the same. Russia did/does the same thing with Cuba, for instance.

The rest of the argument about petrodollars, economics, one-state solutions, and IMF loans is conspiracy theory and conjecture masqueraded as fact. One book about it doesn’t make it true. It’s not worth disproving because the poster is gish-galloping garbage.

Man, fuck off with this partisan bullshit

I really think you should, fam.