Über die Sache streiten wir hier nicht, natürlich ist eine faire regelbasierte Ordnung mit Sanktionsmacht gegen Regelbrecher ein wünschenswertes Ziel, aber wie kommen wir dahin? Wer macht das, oder versucht es wenigstens? Ich sehe nur größere und kleinere Übel.
Ok, aber was bedeutet das jetzt konkret? Macht es irgendein Land aktuell richtig und wenn ja, welches? Wenn nein, hat es schon mal eins richtig gemacht und welches war es?
You are entrapped in a mindset where everyone is out to get you. That is not healthy. Wish you the best.
I did not start off in bad faith, that is your interpretation of it. I was interested to see if we can delineate a difference together between facts, our feelings about them and what that means for a hopefully productive interaction following that. I don’t see how uncalled for implied insults are the appropriate response to that. I did not mean to entrap you in anything, so there was no ploy. It is really sad to see that now you have actually resorted to explicit insult.
I guess that’s what you think is happening. I’m not a genocide-denier in relation to what’s happening in Gaza, thanks for asking. Btw, since you have now devolved into implicit name-calling, I no longer care to find out what you think. Hope you can find peace.
I understand cutting off irredeemable evil family, that was not my question. My question is: Would you personally stand up to evil, knowing that your dependents will suffer for it. And by extension, would you say that someone being scared to stand up to evil because their reason to be scared is not themselves but the safety and wellbeing of their dependents is morally the same as someone supporting the evil?
My aim is not to discredit you, I want to merely find out if we agree or if we should agree to disagree.
I see, thanks for standing up for your beliefs then, I respect that. But did you mean to say that being too scared to stand up to evil means that you support that evil? Because that is a very big leap to make. The reality is that people will put the lives of their family members before beliefs and I am not sure anyone can be considered evil for that, if there is no active collaboration with evil.
No, I’m not saying that. Glad you asked.
What if literal holocaust survivors are offended by this comparison though? Because that is a thing as well.
You are willingly misrepresenting and poisoning healthy discussion, what is your aim in this?
How many times have you been jailed fighting for your beliefs and what was it for? Asking for context so I know if you apply your own standards to yourself.
You can always define a ranking. Being not ok with the words “better” or “worse” in talking about that ranking is purely emotional response. There is an objective ranking of genocides, but that does not change that everyone agrees (at least everyone I can think of on feddit.org, including all mods) that every single genocide is completely unacceptable.
So what you’re saying is that Gaza is a planned, industrial genocide with its literally only aim the extermination of all Palestinians? I’m only asking to find out what your actual position is so I can know if we disagree on facts or on feelings.
Your personal history does not guarantee you to be factually correct about any topic.
Nee, das passt schon so. Dann geht halt noch die extra Ebene, dass der Mittwochsfrosch eigentlich eine Dienstagsfröschin ist.
Mein innerer Aluhut sagt mir, dass das alles abgesprochen ist und dass der noch bis Januar schön fein etwas verhindern oder ermöglichen soll, was die FDP unbedingt will. Oder die VWAG.
Ok, ich sehe selbst, dass ich da nicht ganz fair bin mit diesen Fragen. Das kann man alles wollen, nur wird das niemand machen, weil es Deutschland die einzige Schutzmacht nimmt und den Reichen das ungestörte Geld machen wegnimmt. Aber ich weiß, dass ich auch keinen besseren Vorschlag habe. Ich wollte mit meinen Fragen vor allem aussortieren, dass sich ein Tankie hier verirrt hat, das kann man bei “USA böse” leider oft annehmen, entschuldige bitte die relativ offensichtliche “List” meinerseits. Danke dir für deine Mühe zu antworten und deinen Idealismus, ich kann das nicht mehr. Aber dir wünsch ich viel Ausdauer damit!