Plenty of refuseniks are liberal Zionists or otherwise don’t meaningfully oppose the occupation

Before sharing this, I did check on whether there was actual moral objection in this case - it seemed like there is.

Kids don’t often have the agency to choose not to live in an apartheid state or do much beyond the bare minimum. I certainly hope that Yuval Peleg will take more meaningful steps now - if he stops at having gotten out of serving, the criticism is 100% deserved.

Here’s how I read: your personal ethics/politics are innate rather than learned from your family --> social context plays a minimal role in people’s choices

Sorry - that wasn’t clear - there’s plenty of ways I think my upbringing has impacted who I am and that there are ways I’m still fighting to break out of that mould. I don’t know what exactly helped me escape it here. Maybe it had more impact than I recognize and I just don’t realize it. I don’t think my personal ethics/politics were entirely innate, I think I’ve grown from a place that was more heavily influenced from my upbringing but believing (perhaps incorrectly) that the growth has largely come just from seeing the results of my upbringing in action.

I’m struggling to make sense of how someone can find themselves a willing participant in genocide and perhaps hoping that there’s an innate part of me that would be sensible enough to not end up there that might not be real. I struggle with knowing that I can/should be doing more than I do, while also not feeling like I actually have the spoons for it.

Sorry, I still don’t think this is really an answer.

E: to replace ableism

Most don’t even get to weighing the options. They want to join the military.

One of my replies elsewhere feels particularly applicable here:

Far too many aren’t even getting to the point of weighing whether it’s worse to commit genocide or go to jail - just skip straight to

I don’t doubt that “nurture” plays a role in who you become as a person, but there’s nobody in my family I can point to and say they’ve had a truly formative effect on my politics from a stance of agreement. They told me that I should care about the wellbeing of other people, sure, but it’s not like anyone actually demonstrated that in a meaningful way.

he was upset about having lost friends in battle, not about whatever crimes he and his friends had committed

I was thinking about this earlier too, but never posted the reply - I’m curious what percentage of the suicides come from the pain of realizing that it’s wrong to murder babies vs trauma that’s not driven by the actions they took.

No reason to wait for them to be veterans.

And not alone!

“I would like to remind everyone that while I have finally been freed, there are still two other conscientious objectors in prison currently, and another that might be sent back.”

awesome. Thanks!

Is there a specific swiftie you’re thinking of? A search turned up a bunch of articles about fans pressuring her to support Palestine, but I haven’t found anything quickly that seems to be specifically what you’re referencing.

And ICE would absolutely get hospital treatment for it even if only for the optics.

Maybe hit himself from recoil

A solid 4 “pages” down before I even see it too.

Just the typical talk that’s contradicted by action. I wasn’t expecting differently, but it’s “fun” to highlight the two-faced assholery on plain display.

“Hey, y’all cops or people?”

Confirmed: cops aren’t people.

No doubt the extent of the conduct reform would be a divorce so he’s no longer cheating.

This feed currently has state forces protecting ICE. So much for anything Walz says.

Re-form their heads into pancakes - that sounds like it might be significant enough to me.

Maybe for some of them, but I can’t imagine a complete lack of vanity in the renaming. Maybe just make Puerto Rico “Donald Trump’s Port of Making America Great” and keep the rest like you’ve got them?

Just rename them, problem solved!

1. Trumpland
2. Donald Islands
3. I dunno, pick a political rival if it’s insulting for it to be so small? Obamna?
4. Ericsland
5. Barron Islands

If that’s all it were, it’d be easy:

• Puerto Rico
• Virgin Islands (hell, take the British ones too)
• Guam
• American Samoa (by the time you’re snatching the BVI you really think Samoa’s gonna put up a fight when you fold it in too?)
• Mariana Islands

Boom, 11 columns of 5 so the new flag won’t even look too different.