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Cake day: September 8th, 2023

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  • (I am contemplating whether your are just trolling me and I should stop participating in this debate. But lets assume you really did not understood my point.)

    1. You typed in google something like “EU failing privacy/democracy/freedom” and posted top results. And all those cases are real, but are cherry picked. Therefore I responded with a classical argument about why smoking is “not bad for your health”. https://www.logicalfallacies.org/anecdotal.html
    2. Your results did not include any actual indexes or aggregation of the data.

    Please check this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices especially “list of scores by country” where you also have some historic entries.

    To help you with some conclusions:

    1. EU countries are by far most free and private. Yes of course with their own issues but still way better than any other country.
    2. China is awful regarding this topic.

    So why I had a problem with your response: I strongly believe you already knew the above two facts. You just decided to ignore them and presented me with some problems eu has so you can win the argument. So… I do not like you tried to “win argument” with a logical fallacy which is counterproductive for the debate. And when we just throw random arguments so opposing point of view comes out as bad, everyone comes out a little more radical in their view and noone changes their opinion. And I spent some time writing those comments (not with research but by forming thoughts and sentences in my second language). By turning the debate to this “Facebook like arguing” you destroyed my effort to participate in this community.

    Also in response to your latest accusation: I specifically told you I have a healthy relationship with freedom, and “they hate us for our freedom” does not belong in this category.


  • Another question. Why does this post have so many down votes? I have some ideas but I am not sure which is the real reason:

    1. Asking about generalization could be considered unpopular.
    2. Are communists down voting me?
    3. Badly written post. (I mean English is not my first language and I do believe lemmy needs more content and I am trying to go out of my comfort zone and be more active user)
    4. This topic is just unpopular?










  • About defending capitalism (and not billionaires - who more often than not abuse this system). Some of us lived in other systems. And we understand any other system is way way way way worse.

    There are however a lot of problems with capitalism and should be held on a very short leash. Or else monopoly happens. The most effective actions to keep capitalism at bay: strong anti-trust laws, strong worker protection (this includes a lot of stuff), wealth tax.

    And be aware there are many flavours of calitalism. Most commonly people in USA are the most extreme where you have really “long leash”. And people see such capitalism as failing and want to replace whole system.