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  • Besides your point but this is the aspect about Gorsuch that I can’t seem to make internally consistent. He almost always rules in terms of native rights – even when, I think, it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle – yet is more than happy to rule as a conservative on all other times and support “industry” and big business (even when it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle).

    I know that nothing necessitates a person to act logically and most act from emotion, more than anything, but most people, I find, have a relative reason they think they’re being logically consistent but I can’t seem to suss even that out, with regards to him.




  • O. K. I’m genuinely not (I tend to vote for the Greens in my local elections and I feel like one wouldn’t’ve wanted Mamdani to win if coming up with this was solely because the candidate is progressive) but, like, I’m just a stranger to you so I can understand the hesitation to take at face value.

    Regardless (as I believe this is the point we are both of the same opinion), the great news is still that he won. I think it was sometime last year I remember discussing with my partner how so many people have this idea of NYC as a liberal city yet their mayors have all been neoliberal centrists, at best; I know he hasn’t won the main election, yet, but I’m definitely feeling hopeful about the odds.



  • I’m not mad or upset with you or anything I promise

    O. K. That’s fair enough; “talking out of your ass” and “kiss copirate dems asses” felt more angry than anything but maybe that’s just because “ass” was being used.

    I feel like the points I’ve mentioned I’ve gotten the reasoning for more from political scientists (as I don’t really care about the positions of the media or the corporate Dem.s) but it was never my intent to convince anyone of them; I was trying to explain why, if the Dem.s did back Cuomo, it wouldn’t address the reasoning of someone who believes not voting third party in a presidential election (an attempt to understand the building blocks of that person’s PoV, even if one thinks that PoV is garbage). It may just be how my brain works but understanding the mechanics of someone’s reasoning, even if one would never agree with the conclusion, I find beneficial. Potentially because it helps to break apart their argument in a way they’d understand (though, of course, it can be hard to convince some people to change their minds).

    But it’s definitely not the most important thing here, in the end. The progressive (and exceedingly) better candidate won the nomination; (since I think that’s something we both agree on wanting to have happened) I’m entirely much more enthusiastic about that outcome than anything else discussed in the thread.



  • justify random decisions you’ve made to kiss copirate dems asses

    Damn; that’s…really impressive to’ve gleaned all of this insight about my past decisions on a comment that has mentioned none of my past decisions. You’ve got nothing on Miss Cleo.

    Would you care to explain what corporate media talking points I’m reiterating?

    Also, I’ve not been remotely as aggressive or attacking to anyone here; you’re acting like I’m encouraging people to vote for Cuomo or Adams. I have not given this level of hostility or assumption of poor character out the gate like this, remotely.


  • The properties of a local election where one of the major parties backs the third party candidate does change the viability of that third party candidate in the election. But…

    That doesn’t suddenly mean that’s the candidate I want to win or that I think that’s the candidate everyone should vote for. I feel like we should be able to say Cuomo would have better odds without that inherently meaning we should vote for Cuomo.

    I was trying to help explain what material properties affect this to help explain why this election would not be convincing evidence to a person who argues against voting for a third party in a presidential election (where neither of the major parties are backing said third party).

    I didn’t think that talking about the reasoning of such a person to understand their logic would suddenly mean that I thought voting for the third party was the thing to do or especially that I was advocating for voting for the serial sexual harasser.

    I…don’t know how else to explain that these are separate things. I feel like I’ve addressed you in good faith repeatedly while you’ve just insisted I’ve been secretly lying.


  • Speaking about the likelihood of whether a candidate can win is not the same thing as desiring for that candidate to win.

    I explicitly said in my very first reply to you that I wasn’t making a recommendation about which candidate to vote for because my point was about the reasoning of the argument and whether OP’s argument actually addressed the viability of a candidate, the central piece of contention when it comes to whether a third-party candidate is capable of winning.

    That doesn’t mean I want Cuomo to win, regardless of how his chances look or his actual viability. I’m not a centrist; I don’t want centrists for office; I’m thrilled the socialist won the primary; this is entirely besides the point of my original comment.


  • the sex pest you want is a centrist

    Ohhhhh; O. K. Yeah; you are just totally ignoring what I’m saying.

    Thanks for, at least, confirming.

    I’ve said multiple times I wanted Mamdani to win; I’ve also said multiple times that I’m, very much, not advocating for anyone to vote third party (again, the candidate I would want won). You’re just ignoring what I’m saying and substituting your own reality.

    O. K. then; carry on. I wasted way too much time actually thinking this was a real conversation.


  • paragraph of excuses

    …you mean the material differences between two different scenarios?

    I’ve already said that the backing of a powerful organization in different election series would render the same advantages and chance of winning – regardless of the candidates political positions (and that I wanted Mamdani to win! I’m not even arguing to not vote for him; I think every New Yorker should) – so this is literally you just insisting that, no, really the reasoning would be different if Mamdani ran as a third party and the Democratic party endorsed him. Then I’d say the reasoning was different and you should vote for the guy who won the primary.

    Which, like, if you’re going to assume I’m secretly lying, why even bother to have responded in the first place?