• contemporary democrats are not any better, they make hella frequent concessions to anti-competitive business practices under the guise of licensing or stimulus

        • Cybersteel
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          01 year ago

          What makes the rest of the world any better than US by using them as a metric.

          • @thoro@lemmy.ml
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            41 year ago

            The fact their Overton windows aren’t so skewed that a center right party is considered “the left”?

          • @_wintermute@lemmy.world
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            21 year ago

            US politics is a few hundred years old whereas European and other’s are thousands of years old? The rest of the world’s political perspective has a bit more precedent than ours.

      • Pelicanen
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        21 year ago

        Far from perfect? Yes. Bad? Very often. Not any better than Republicans when it comes to corporate interests? Absolutely not.

    • 👁️👄👁️
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      111 year ago

      The guys who claim capitalism works because a free market will create better things through competition. Guess they weren’t so much for the competition stuff and just became puppets for corporations. We also have it completely legal to openly bribe politicians which makes zero fucking sense, except we call it lobbying so it somehow becomes okay.

      • @fruitywelsh@lemmy.ml
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        11 year ago

        Only thing worse than free market capitalism is state sponsored. Decades of the fed flooding the big banks with capital to loan, taxes taken from everyone but the largest corps, and regulatory capture (see copy right for this topic), and we get corporations that demand difficult anti trust actions just to slow down.

        • 👁️👄👁️
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          11 year ago

          That’s not a black and white system, it’s not one or the other. Every system will have aspects of both in them.

      • @pazukaza@lemmy.ml
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        11 year ago

        Only pure liberals think leaving the free market by itself with minimal regulation is a good thing. Capital attracts capital and becomes basically a snowball.

        But is the solution a market controlled by a centralized entity? You just pointed out politicians can also be corrupted. So… Giving more power to an entity that can be corrupted is the solution?

        The problem is corruption. Any system you can propose can be fucked up by corruption. The justice system, politicians and government can be corrupted under any system because they are human.

        If I’m wrong, just propose any system and I’ll tell you how it crumbles because of corruption.

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          11 year ago

          Ideally that’s where democracy is supposed to kick in, to stomp out corruption when it occurs. Obviously that’s not what’s happening and we don’t have a democracy anyways. Especially with bribing being completely legal.

    • BarqsHasBite
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      31 year ago

      I think they’re still there, just haven’t been trotted out in recent history. And mergers keep getting approved.