• harc
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    1 month ago

    OK, so what about sponsoring neonazis?

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        1 month ago

        Let’s say they do. How is that worse, or equal, to clearly sponsoring them it at least 4 much larger European countries?

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          I don’t care about moralizing. Not being an utter psychopath, I want to avoid wars and people dying. NATO created the conditions for war through it’s actions over many decades since the dissolution of USSR. Now hundreds of thousands of people died, while sickos living in NATO countries continue to cheers this on.

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            1 month ago

            Yeah, nazis growing to power has never lead to any deaths. You serious?

            Even if NATO did that it’s Russian soldiers bombarding cities, and and Russian soldiers in Ukraine. You want to stop wars, everything that needs to be done is them going back to their country. Oh, and maybe, just maybe, the “sickos” simply know what Russian occupation of their countries looked like, some first hand? You ever consider that, or is there simply one side who has any rights?

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              Again, the whole reason the war is still going is because NATO stopped negotiations that could’ve ended it two months in. It’s western fascists such as yourself who are ensuring the killing goes on. The blood is on your hands.

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                  Oh look more moralizing. The difference between me and you is that I’m not trying to have some moral high ground here. I just want the war to stop. You’re the one who keeps trying to make it out like the war is all Russia’s fault. Meanwhile, NATO scum is the reason the war continues. You should put your money where your mouth is, and go sign up for the foreign legion. Go fight some Russians and defend Ukraine since you believe in it so much. But we both know you just want other people to die for your ideals because all you fascists are cowards deep down.

                  All Russia has to do to stop a war is getting the fuck out of Ukraine, and the killing stops.

                  I love how you trolls keep repeating it as if it’s going to happen if you just say it enough times. What part of the fact that Russia won the war are you still struggling to comprehend?

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                    I’m not acting for some abstract morals, but against pointless death, imperialist rule and growth of feudal states. Russia as it is personifies most of that.

                    Russia can stop the war anytime by going back to it’s internationally recognized borders. And nothing says “russia won” like a film studio donating it’s antique tanks to MOD, and the state having to rely on rapists and murderers to win meters of terrain 1000 days into their 2-3 day operation. You’re beyond delusional. You’re cheering a idiot who just destroyed the demography of his already falling dystopian state for the sake of militarizing the rest of Europe against it.
                    And even if he won, one thing you will see is a campaign of terror directed at Russia by the Ukrainian and broader Slav underground by which the Chechen one was only symbolic.

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      Interesting policy of wreaking destruction upon every “regime” that doesn’t align with your hypocritically professed values, irrespective of the history of the country and how the group you want wiped out came to power in the first place.

      There is a problem though, that your wish to isolate these states from diplomacy and trade does nothing more than create stripped-down capitalist states, at the mercy of London and Wall St. and their blob, the conditions and the political influences that produce these “left” and “right” neoliberal parties (for neocons are a variety of liberal, economically, despite your ahistorical use of the term). Your whole approach is mindlessly destructive and counterproductive.

      The endgame of this strategy looks like Milei, like post-Gaddafi Libya. Your approach always results in starvation, rape, and murder of the population, and this collapse of society allows far right groups easy pickings.