I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn’t see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed
edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn’t realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community’s rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual
Oh, Cowbee, you and your statistics! How disingenuous you are.
For starters, that sample size is minuscule at only 1000.
And unsurprisingly, more countries think the dissolution was a bad thing than a good thing. Of course, Russia thinks the USSR was good, they were the oppressors. Life under the Soviet Union was grossly oppressive for the peasants, and especially if your country was the victim of Russian imperialism. You couldn’t speak ill of the leaders, you had zero representation, and you faced the risk of your livelihood being ripped from you at any point. Your indigenous culture was even suppressed because it was considered anti-Soviet behaviour. There you go defending imperialism again, Cowbee.
And mind you, this is a survey before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine!
You’re right, that data is from before the Russo-Ukrainian war. It’s even higher now.
Over four years, more than 63,000 people have become party members, with most of the new recruits being young people under 30 and “people of prime working age.”
“We are now seeing not just nostalgia for the past, but a conscious choice by millions of citizens in favor of the socialist path of development,”
KPRF restored all ties with the Communist Parties of China, Vietnam, the DPRK, with Latin America, with Cuba, with Venezuela, with Nicaragua..
The expansion and astronomical growth of grassroot movements like the Inmortal Regiment. This movement grew so large that plenty of countries around the world organized a similar march. It started small until it grew in a international movement.
The imperialist siege intensified and forced Russia to look elsewhere which lead to their economy into allying with plenty of the global south. This allowed more cultural/ideological exchanges with China , Belarus, Cuba, Vietnam and the DPRK.
There are now Russian grassroot movements that boost programs such Youth exchange with Cuba and the DPRK.
Further, the USSR wasn’t imperialist. It had a publicly owned economy, and didn’t base its economy on international extraction. The peasantry saw dramatic material improvements, it was the kulaks, bourgeois farmers, that were oppressed. For the peasantry, they saw a doubling of life expectancy, massive development, free and high quality education and healthcare, a tripling of literacy rates, and more. National identities were preserved and strengthened, while trying to develop an internationalist “soviet” identity compatible with all.
Overall, the majority regret the dissolution of the USSR.
What are these sources, my man? You gonna link to RT News next? Am I gonna need an antivirus to check these out?
And again, no shit, Russia would want more soviet union, they were oppressors and imperialists. And the majority of countries do not regret the dissolution. And hey, glad you mentioned the DPRK. You must hate North Korean soldiers fighting for Russia against Ukraine, yeah?
Do you think the communists are in power in Russia? No, absolutely not, so why would they be lying about verifiable information on the strengthening of opposition movements to the current nationalists? Further, information on trade increasing with countries like Cuba, etc is backed up by non-Russian sources.
The USSR was not oppressive nor imperialist. You keep claiming this, but it’s wrong, the USSR did not run on international plunder, nor did it export capital, nor was it under the control of a financial oligarchy. Further, the vast majority of people, non-Russian included, regret the fall of the USSR.
I like to comfort myself by imagining that both of you are paid actors who make a living sowing discontent on Lemmy to prevent any chance of mainstream success for the platform.
Sadly, my rational assessment of the human condition compels me to believe that you are both entirely genuine, and just extremely confused and solipsistic. If you are indeed engaging in good faith, then I would pose the question of what you hope to accomplish by engaging in these idiotic, endless faux-debates.
Realistically, there is no arbitrator here; you are both entirely able to move the goalposts, recruit spurious evidence, ignore counterpoints, and generally make a mockery of a legitimate debate. Furthermore, you have a miniscule audience on this platform, greatly limiting the possibility of influencing third parties. Therefore, the only possible outcome of this interaction would be the outcome which has already been repeated ad infinitum on Lemmy and social media in general, namely the mutual exchange of insults, poorly constructed arguments, and badly sourced data.
What an interesting way to spend one’s life. As I said initially, it would be less painful to witness if I believed that you were accomplishing something such as the general suppression of Lemmy as a social media platform by creating a climate of negativity and conflict (even though I oppose that goal).
But realistically you are probably like the vast majority of people in that you are hopelessly incapable of judging the impact of your actions on the world and/or yourself, and you simply prefer to follow your baser instincts rather than take a step back and consider if there might be a more efficacious method of achieving your purported goals. Gives major punching a brick wall energy.
It’s much simpler, I’m a communist, and I try to do what I can to create more comrades. Many people have thanked me for helping change their minds, so I know it isn’t worthless.
Communism isn’t a deus ex machina that would make all human beings instantaneously happy if they were to simply accept it unquestioningly. For that matter, communism isn’t a comprehensive ideology at all, it’s more of a collection of theorems regarding the socioeconomic development and structure of society, many of which contradict one another.
It’s like a Christian who thinks they are inherently doing good by converting others to Christianity. You are taking a handful of decent theoretical ideas and imbuing them with the significance of divine revelation. Furthermore, you are arrogantly presuming that your flawed understanding of communism is the real communism, and discounting the possibility that other “communists” can easily interpret the ideology in such a way as to justify killing you due to your flawed understanding of communism. It’s an incredibly naive position that doesn’t withstand the most basic scrutiny.
Think about it like liberalism. The American and French revolutionaries claimed moral authority because they were overthrowing the hierarchical structures of feudalism and replacing them with republicanism, democracy, free trade, etc.
In retrospect, we can easily observe that these ideas and political movements, despite nominally being constructed to protect and enhance the freedom and equitability of human beings, have in reality created conditions which have massively infringed on the self-declared natural rights of human beings in ways that a feudal hierarchy could never have dreamed of accomplishing.
Likewise, even if society were to globally transition to communism, that would simply raise new problems and abuses of power that would need to be combated. In conclusion, “creating more comrades” is a futile and naive goal.
Additionally, there is a very convincing argument to be made that you have potentially pushed more people away from communism than drawn people towards communism, and you would obviously have no way of knowing whether or not that is true. From where I’m sitting, I see a lot more users who have blocked you and your ilk than those who have joined you, and my personal opinion of communism has grown significantly less favorable since I began encountering you people on Lemmy a few years back. But what do I know, I’m a dirty non-communist so therefore all of my thoughts and actions are clearly incorrect and evil in comparison to the enlightened and ethical behaviors of any individual who happens to adopt the moniker of communist.
God, ignorance really is bliss. What I would give to be simple-minded enough that I could ascribe a positive ethical value to something as utterly meaningless as “creating more comrades”.
I never once said that communism is something magical that fixes all problems, nor have I placed religious significance on it. This giant wall of text is just you going on and on in flowery language without actually explaining how I fit the strawman you’ve made of me.
Communism, the ideology, is just the general organization towards collectivizing production and distribution. The process isn’t magical, it isn’t religious, but it has useful benefits and consistent practical knowledge developed by past communists and socialists to aid in reaching this end. That’s what communism is. There’s no magic utopia, and I have never said as such, nor have you explained how I misunderstand communism.
It’s nice that you top off your comment with an ableist attack by calling me “simple-minded.”
It’s not a strawman, it’s a realistic appraisal of your position based on the evidence of your actions. Just because you prefer to deny it verbally when it’s laid out in front of you like that doesn’t make it any less true.
If you don’t believe communism is anything special or noteworthy, then you wouldn’t spend your entire life on a fringe online forum attempting to convert a few dozen edgy teenagers.
You have a remarkable capacity for doublethink, which partially explains why you find communism so attractive as an ideology.
Thank you for calling my language flowery though, it’s nice to be appreciated 🙃
So what’s your end goal here? What’s the communist endgame?
Communism, globally.
That does sound attractive, very utopian, I like that. I’m unfortunately more of a realist and believe that human greed is just too inherent in our biology, not to say we shouldn’t try, of course.
But the question is how? Through a stateless society?
What do you expect instead? You can’t have a discussion with extremists.
I would just block and move on if I were you. Although I don’t hold myself to that same standard because sometimes I can’t resist interacting either, so I guess I can’t really criticize you too much.
Usually I try to just speak my piece and dip though, whereas you tend to get fully drawn into discussions with extremists much more frequently and extensively than myself, and indeed seem to seek such interactions out. Just seems like a waste of energy and not particularly beneficial for your mental well-being.
Which you never linked.
Aw nice! A source from 2013. Let’s have a look at a more up-to-date source and…
And notice how Cowbee is avoiding the question? He knows it’s not a good look – You must hate North Korean soldiers fighting for Russia against Ukraine, yeah?
I gave you sources, your only counter is that they are Russian so they can’t be trusted, despite verifiable evidence being within them. It’s all easily found on google, here’s an article from Reuters talking about Russian-Cuban trade increasing.
As for posting the same source on countries like Estonia opposing socialism, that doesn’t override that the majority of people support socialism. Countries like Estonia that celebrate Nazi collaboration of course have a reason to oppose socialism.
As for avoiding the question, no, I’m not. Russia and the DPRK have a mutual defense agreement, why wouldn’t the DPRK send its support? Trade with Russia helped the DPRK reach 3.7% GDP growth in 2024 as estimated by the ROK, it’s an immensely useful relationship for them.