I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn’t see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed
edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn’t realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community’s rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual
It’s not a strawman, it’s a realistic appraisal of your position based on the evidence of your actions. Just because you prefer to deny it verbally when it’s laid out in front of you like that doesn’t make it any less true.
If you don’t believe communism is anything special or noteworthy, then you wouldn’t spend your entire life on a fringe online forum attempting to convert a few dozen edgy teenagers.
You have a remarkable capacity for doublethink, which partially explains why you find communism so attractive as an ideology.
Thank you for calling my language flowery though, it’s nice to be appreciated 🙃
You didn’t lay out anything, though, you waxxed poetic about a strawman. You’re even doing it now, just because communism isn’t magical doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s important and necessary. You’re outright stating in this doublespeak that if something isn’t religious or magical, that it isn’t worth anything at all, then you call what I do “doublethink.”
Secondly, I have a busy life outside of Lemmy. I like to spend my online time talking about theory and geopolitics, but I don’t even moderate any comms except Hexbear’s c/theory which I only use to pin and unpin reading threads. You’re speaking like a Marvel villian right now without stating anything of substance.
You haven’t even responded to my point that you’re actively pushing more people away from communism than vice versa.
How can you think it’s important and necessary if you can’t even define what it is?
Does it? Can you give some examples of these benefits and this practical knowledge?
I’ll go first. It is necessary to eliminate opposing political parties and ideologies to ensure the viability of any communist state.
You didn’t back up that claim with anything other than vibes, though. Further, politics isn’t a tug-of-war, if people firmly disagree with communism, a communist explaining the communist viewpoint with (generally) a level-head isn’t pushing them away, it’s the communism, full-stop. The fact that the absolute number of comrades has risen due to my interactions means it’s a net positive.
Secondly, I can define communism, it’s a stateless, classless, moneyless society where production and distribution is collectivized and based on satisfying the needs of everyone.
Edit: to respond to your edit:
Communists have learned good party structure, how to democratize the economy, and the usefulness of implementing controlled market forces in underdeveloped countries as a means to rapidly increase the productive forces. China, for example, is massively improving quality of life year over year, and was one of the poorest countries on the planet only a century ago.
I don’t need to, I’m not the one focusing all my energy on converting people to communism without having any evidence of whether my methods are actually effective, or indeed, whether communism itself is effective.
Hahaha it’s like when the CCP exterminated all the sparrows in China to protect the crops. It wasn’t until millions of people started dying from starvation that they realized sparrows actually play a major role in controlling insect populations, and their idiotic extermination campaign had the opposite effect of what they intended. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree I guess. Shoot first ask questions later mindset.
Oh, or it’s also like when the CCP instituted the one-child policy, only to belatedly realize decades later that they had inadvertently created a massive demographic crisis that has only begun to unfold recently. It’s almost like blind adherence to ideology to the exclusion of one’s ability to dispassionately examine the available evidence causes one to make bad, self-destructive decisions. Who knew? Certainly not communists.
Citation needed
Gotcha, you just wanted a place to practice your poetry and go on a polemic against me devoid of substance.
As for killing the sparrows during widespread weather disaster, it’s widely recognized as a critical failure. Is your point that communism is bad if communists ever make a mistake? Life expectancy still managed to double under Mao, that’s how horribly underdeveloped China was, and a famine under those circumstances of underdevelopment was something common prior to the communists. It was the work of the communists that stopped famine for good in China.
Not doxxing the users who have thanked me directly in DMs or publicly. You know that it’s nonzero, if that’s not “good enough” for you then that’s your decision.
Having not read much theory, I have found your comments about communism and geopolitics helpful and insightful, thanks.
No problem, thank you so much!
If you want, I actually have an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list, feel free to give it a look if you want to familiarize yourself more with Marxism-Leninism!
imaqtpie certainly talked about religion…
Yep, they keep flipping around black and white logic while trying to accuse me of black and white logic, even using Orwellian terms like “doublespeak” and “doublethink.”
Holy copium batman 😂
A famine on the scale of the Great Famine, largely self inflicted by the federal government, was an entirely singular and unprecedented event. To attempt to portray the Great Famine as a common historical event or anything other than a tremendous black mark against the government which presided over it is clear evidence of bias on your part. Everybody makes mistakes, but the anatomy of the Great Famine was clearly the direct result of decisions made by the CCP that would never have been made under a different, less authoritarian political system.
I’d have to imagine that any neutral party reading through these comments will have gotten plenty of confirmation that my assessment of you is correct, in that your blind adherence to communism as a panacea prevents you from understanding or engaging with reality in objective, rational terms. Good day sir.
It was initially caused by adverse weather conditions in a semi-feudal level of development. Killing the sparrows made it worse, but the communists did the best they could with what they knew, and more importantly, were responsible for developing beyond that semi-feudal level and instead creating cooperative farms that were far more productive. None of this is cope, the famine would have happened under the Kuomintang had the nationalists won the civil war.
Secondly, nobody is siding with you here. Imagine this neutral party all you want, they don’t exist at the moment.
Pure, unfettered cope. It’s amazing that you know how events would have unfolded in an alternative timeline where the CCP didn’t exterminate billions of sparrows. Your mastery of ecological science must be exceptional, I’m sure you’ve run the numbers on this and come up with a data-driven model that demonstrates the truth of your argument. Surely you wouldn’t make such a claim without having copious amounts of statistical/historical/ecological evidence to support said claim.
Smartest thing you’ve said all day, neutrals don’t really exist on this platform. I’m aware of that, discussions such as these are more useful for me to develop and work through my own positions and rhetorical techniques for exposing sophists and ideologues.