• paranoid@lemmy.world
      351·
      19 hours ago

      Nah fam, my entire house is smart. It’s just that it all runs on a completely separate and isolated network than anything else, and I can revoke all access to that network with ease.

      Edit to add that printers are actually the fucking worst for this, since so many of them now are network printers, rather than just-plug-it-into-my-computer printers. They are notorious for being insecure, and require being on the same network as the computer from which it’s printing. I have another separate network with very limited access just for my printer, and I have to join it from my computer if I ever want to print or scan

      • TheSaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        4·
        5 hours ago

        I bought a laser printer meant for businesses, and it has to be one of the easiest printers i’ve ever operated. Installed some drivers from manufacturers website and everything immediately works, plugs in to pc over USB, with no wifi or anything unnecessary.

      • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
        10·
        17 hours ago

        Having smart stuff isn’t bad.

        Having “smart” stuff that only works via a proprietary app over the internet is bad.

        I like being able to dim several lights via a single command. I don’t like it being even possible from outside my house

        • Grimy@lemmy.world
          6·
          16 hours ago

          Even worse, they sometimes kill their apps or remove functionalities.

          It does take a lot of shopping to find the things that can work without a proprietary app though.

          • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            15 hours ago

            Yeah, Zigbee stuff is theoretically nice, but it’s an expensive setup that isn’t exactly easy for, say, my mom. And nothing is keeping Philips from going “haha, no, buy out proprietary stuff now”.

            I’ve got Wiz on a standalone wifi, which works fine for me and it’s cheap, but it’s still a proprietary app (at least an open source project exists for it).

            • Honytawk@feddit.nl
              1·
              3 minutes ago

              Wouldn’t trust any IoT device that connects via Wifi.

              Don’t forget the “S” in IoT stands for Security.

              IoT devices focus on as many features as possible, for a as low as possible price. Security is always an after thought.

            • Grimy@lemmy.world
              1·
              14 hours ago

              I haven’t implemented much but I’m planning on going with Shelly smart relays. I’m not a big fan of smart bulbs and stuff. I don’t know if that’s mostly what you mean by Wiz.

              I was checking home assistant out and it seems to have quite a lot of things integrated so at least we aren’t slaves to their apps, even though it’s always connected to their servers.

              • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
                2·
                12 hours ago

                Wiz is a brandname, they make mostly lamps and plugs and buttons and the like. I honestly don’t want my appliances connected to anything more advanced than a timer, and they all have that already.

                • Grimy@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  12 hours ago

                  Ya I went to check their website, it just seemed like it was mostly smart bulbs and light strips that you have to replace once they burn out. I just don’t trust those as much, seems like e-waste. Well actually, the strips last really long tbh.

      • Turret3857@infosec.pub
        English
        7·
        19 hours ago

        The solution i use on OpenWrt is basically-

        Printer on airgapped IoT network

        Computer on Internet network

        Avahi mDNS allowed specifically for my printers MAC Address to access it from the Internet network without allowing it to reach WAN.

  • lacktoes_but_tolerant@sh.itjust.works
    13·
    18 hours ago

    Luckily they don’t really work like that.

    • Download the app?
    • failed to connect
    • failed to connect
    • I am now a cryptomining malware bot
    • Please upgrade to the newest toaster
  • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
    12·
    19 hours ago

    For me, most appliances have no use being automated. For the few that do have a use case (my coffee maker specifically) the appliance itself is as dumb as possible. Only the switch is “smart”.

    • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.orgEnglish
      12·
      18 hours ago

      I think it’s really interesting that washing machines for example got pretty cheap. You can get a “good” one for a few hundred bucks. It has a display and fancy buttons and it wants to connect to your wifi.

      But the really good washing machine is 5times as expensive and it only has a wheel in the middle that makes loud clicking sounds when you turn it, because the whole thing is pretty much mechanical and lasts forever

      • lacktoes_but_tolerant@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        18 hours ago

        I am so looking forward to my time in hell when I meet the devil and he says “yeah bro, that was pretty bad, but have you ever dealt with an LG washing machine? I have the engineer coming in next week. Fuck that guy”