For context: People are claiming that Hasan Piker shocked his dog with a shock collar on stream for basically no reason and got very mad at him. He put out a video showing her collar for 0.001 seconds in the world’s most awkward hand grip and saying it was clearly a vibration collar and his enemies are trying to ruin his life as they always do. People including myself are still suspicious.
I looked at the allegations in this video myself a little, and I won’t swear to the model numbers or anything but it all sounds right to me. You may need to pause the video to look at his images, he scrolls past them irritatingly quickly. There does however definitely look to me to be tape on the back of that thing. This is from Hasan’s explanation stream where he showed the collar:
Click to see the raw image and zoom it, and you’ll see pretty clearly that most of the box is shiny dark black plastic with bright white highlights, and then there’s a clear off-kilter rectangle of something that’s matte dark grey instead, without much in the way of highlights. You can also see vague shadows of two little circular things that could be prong sockets covered by tape or could just be weird compression artifacts or something.
Here it is with contrast adjusted:
You can see the rectangle of the tape, and then some kind of distortion at the top that might be a prong socket, and a pretty clear circular shape at the bottom that definitely looks like it could be one.
In another part of the video you can see that circular part under the tape even more clearly. Look between his fingers to see the clear circular shape, you can even see wrinkles in the tape around the circular protrusion:
Yes, I’m already aware that the Hasan stans will say I’m making all this up and it’s not there and they don’t see anything. Anyway, that’s what it is. If I did my math right, those frames are from https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2586575954 and the timestamps are, respectively for the three images:
- 43:58.396
- 44:09.292
- 44:09.333
Somebody inform reddit, the drama must flow.
I just like dogs. I think if he’s shocking his dog and lying about it, he’s a piece of shit. That’s about the end of it.
I think i said this before, what you’re saying is precisely the logic that tight-knit Christian communities use to protect sexual abusers who are highly placed in the community. It is 100% the same. “How DARE you say this about this person, don’t you know how much good they do, look what bad people their enemies are, you’re probably just confused by all those rumors out there, but it’s BAD people starting those rumors, and look what an important role they play, now I question if YOU’RE one of the bad people…”
I notice also that we only pivoted to
“it’s all just drama from his enemies”“why are you talking about this so much”“you’re ruining Palestine with all this posting” after it become extremely objectively clear what actually happened. Before that it was all dew claws, close-ups of freezes from the stream, waving around vibrating collars on stream, that kind of thing. Now we’re all of a sudden in a landscape where there are much bigger issues at play aside from, did he actually shock that dog or not.I posted one video two days ago, then got a tide of incoming accusation and kerfuffle for a day and a half, and then earlier today I decided I would respond to a lot of the incoming hate-mail I was getting from Hasan stans by just posting a new video of something objectively illustrating that Hasan is actually a piece of shit to his dog, every time I got some kind of hate mail. This guy was the one that finally pushed me over the edge to do it:
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16741177
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16741569
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16740783
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16740913
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16748637
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16755963
And so on, there’s more, that’s about half of it. Anyway, I think about 75% of my posts today are in response to stuff like that. I decided it would be funnier to make a new post every time I got one of those, and respond to him with a link to the new post, instead of reporting him. And you know what? I stand by that decision.
(He’s also one of those “Kamala Harris would have been just as bad” people, if you want to aim some of that analyzing-political-motives around at anyone else. That’s one of the other comments he likes to copy-paste to people sometimes, check his profile.)
Yes, your well-documented interest in dogs, and not your woefully underrepresented distaste for a specific type of leftist commentary that piker happens to advocate for.
You’re actually 100% right about that. I actually forgot about this, but I talked about it here:
https://lemmy.world/search?q=hasan&type=All&listingType=All&creatorId=15951251&page=1&sort=Old
I completely forgot about that stuff. He was saying that basically every country in the world except America was backing Russia in Ukraine. Something like that. I don’t fully remember (and I guess the post got deleted?), but yes, I think he’s incredibly ignorant about world issues, and incredibly hostile to anyone who does know what they’re talking about who disagrees with him, and then cloaks in in this shield of performative leftist anti-Imperialism in a way that garners him supporters without him needing to be worth listening to.
And in particular there’s a huge following that sees that he’s pro-Palestinian, and then they start supporting him, and that becomes a shield for any kind of wrong or toxic thing he wants to do. I’m pro-Palestinian. You’re pro-Palestinian. Hasan is pro-Palestinian. Bernie Sanders is pro-Palestinian. It’s fine. It is the only moral viewpoint. But he understands that in the modern left it’s this kind of trump card where if someone convinces their idiot supporters (like you, right now) to attack everyone who’s “against” him by implying that they’re ANTI-Palestinian, because what other type of person would EVER attack a PRO-Palestinian, they can literally get away with torturing a dog on stream and everyone will look the other way for them.
That’s why I compare it to small town Christian communities. It’s 100% the same. It is to a T. He’s the people who go out to eat after church and tip fifty cents. He’s the people who torment their stepchildren without mercy, are just blowhard pieces of shit on a personal level, but no one will say a word against them, because they’re PRO-Christian in a huge way and big names in the community, and so… you get the idea.
So yes, I have distaste for “a specific type of leftist community.” I honestly didn’t pay enough attention to Hasan before this to see it in any level of detail, I just saw that one video 2 months ago. And sure, maybe it’s fair to say that I should watch some of his streams that haven’t been cherry-picked to look bad by someone with malicious intentions. That’s completely fair, I really will do that. But honestly everything I have seen, including stuff that was cherry-picked by his supporters as a “gotcha” against my POV (when he was showing the dog collar on stream and explaining himself), has made me think he is pro-Palestine’s TV evangelist preacher, and y’all are the suckers who keep sending your retirement money hoping he’ll bring Gaza to the promised land, when all he wants to do is buy more cars for himself with it or whatever. Has he been covering the flotilla? Has he been burning up about all the protests spreading in Europe now? What’s he been talking about? I haven’t seen, maybe he is, tell me.
Honestly I appreciate this whole interaction because now I can see more clearly I think. Whatever was burning me up to interact about the topic of the dog-shocking (to this, sure, a little excessive degree) is gone now, I think, because the thing I was wanting to know or wanting to understand is resolved for me now.
Hmmm, now who would that be
Like this person in his chat who made an incredibly succinct comparison to highlight the error of what he was saying, and then he (a) missed the point completely (b) lost his shit:
https://files.catbox.moe/vpcdhp.mp4
Yes i’ve seen you post this a couple times. I’m still looking for an example of who you think ‘knows what they’re talking about’
So far it just seems like its anyone who shares your perspective, including any old twitch chatter or outspoken genocidal zionist, but you’re being a little cagey. Is it willymac? Is that your go-to foreign policy expert? I just want to make sure we’re on the same page.
I posted a video a little while back, of a trans person who came in Hasan’s stream and said that they disagreed with his handling of trans issues. He booted them from the chat and started these wild personal insults against them (as did a lot of his chat).
You know, like a perfectly reasonable person.
It’s somewhere in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdCFycPw3fI
Like I say, the source of the information means nothing to me. It’s all untrustworthy. I would want to look and double-check a lot of the information first regardless (unless it was a highly trusted source somehow). Actually, for a lot of this Kaya stuff, I made sure to grab the source video where I could directly from Hasan’s pages, so I could look around and see more of the context (and be sure it’s not some kind of deepfake, although that seems highly unlikely.)
And yes, I’m probably getting a one-sided picture. Do you want to send me something which is Hasan making some really clear and important argument that I really need to hear? Or just his normal day-to-day coverage of the flotilla or the European Gaza protests that are going on right now? Happy to take a look at that stuff, too.
No, i’m looking for literally anyone you think is a good representation of your geopolitical perspective that might better inform what you consider “someone who knows what they’re talking about”.
You’ve only shared content of piker responding to twitch chat, which is certainly evocative but not helpful in supporting your claim that ‘he doesn’t know what he’s talking about’. I could certainly share an example of his geopolitical stance that I think is well-supported, but I’m really just trying to gain a better understanding of your worldview beyond the reaction slop you keep pointing to.
Oh, so a different thing from someone qualified coming in and trying to help Hasan understand and him treating them as the enemy and him and all his chat going on a wild tear of insulting them and tearing them down instead of spending even a moment hearing out what they have to say.
Got it. You should have said you were interested in that totally separate question. On geopolitics I like Noam Chomsky, Rachel Maddow, Al Jazeera, Bellingcat, Tim Snyder… kind of hard to list out individual people on the spot, but those are some random ones that come to mind who deal with global issues who I generally will trust their judgement because I’ve seen them be right a lot in the past. Almost any perspective I can appreciate as long as it seems like it’s coming from an honest place, but those are some where I actually feel pretty firmly aligned with the person’s viewpoint or the overall editorial viewpoint. Then there are specific people (Dan Ellsberg, John Perkins) who have some kind of unique insight into a specific element of geopolitics that I think is valuable to include in my overall picture.
I strongly dislike the reaction slop. This stuff is that, sure, and I’m only reacting to it because they seem like they’re bringing receipts, the topic is important, and the counterargument from Hasan’s side is so transparently dishonest that it doesn’t really convince me that he’s not guilty. But I’m limited to those people for my picture of Hasan, I think, because that’s the only ecosystem where he is really active and so those are the only people in a position to criticize him. That’s why I asked you for some of his exemplary work on geopolitics so I can take a look at it, and judge it in the same light that I would those names I listed earlier.