• Øπ3ŕ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    21 hours ago

    WTF are you contributing, exactly? Put up or STFU and let yourself feel a fleeting moment of hope, FFS. 🖕🏼

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      18 hours ago

      It’s okay this guy is miserable - kept making comments on other Portland posts too about the naked cyclists. Clearly just jealous.

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          14 hours ago

          Where exactly can you point out my personal complicity?

          Clearly you’re just a troll. That’s why you troll around these chats and post nothing but anger and hostility in your comments, demanding people do more but giving no real solutions on what they should be doing, all while you yourself do nothing but berate others online. It’s pathetic and makes me consider you nothing more than a paid Russian propaganda machine.

          All this does is show how miserable you are in your own life.

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            14 hours ago

            Because you advocate for ineffectual solutions against brutal violence. You want to know a fun fact about Gandhi? He offered medical assistance to the soldiers of the British Empire. Pacifism in the face of evil is bad enough, but browbeating people and sucking all the air out of the room with disgusting antics is complicity. Don’t bother trying to hide it, because the double standards of when liberals choose to roll over and show their belly and when they hiss and scratch is pretty goddamn clear!

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              4 hours ago

              I see a lot of yapping and double standard. Where is your effort? I just see you’re doing a lot of browbeating on people who are doing something while all you do is criticize them online and attempt to suck all the air out of the room, according to your standards you’re complicit of genocide.

              I think any form of protest is the most patriotic thing you can do. And I mean, might as well dress up as a frog or streak while you still have those freedoms, those in these other countries don’t have that freedom.

              What a 🧌

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                4 hours ago

                Are you surprised we haven’t focused to that when we are stuck on debating the effectiveness of actions you know don’t work? They are purely symbolic and done chiefly to make people feel better about their powerlessness. That itself is harmful, because you are lying to people about a miracle cure for fascism called doing fuck all.

                I already answered the question broadly of what would even make strategic inaction like boycotting capable of pressuring organizations or political figures, it’s an organization that has real leverage politically, not an NGO that plaintively asks for better institutions or malicious ones to reform themselves. An organization that can apply pressure with the legitimacy of those demands. Demands alone are not impressive, and reminding everyone over and over what a good boy who follows the rules of protests and nonviolence and boycotting you are reinforces you have zero intention of being a threat to the people euthanizing your homeless population! You think that’s going to manifest in delinking from the USA? We both get all of our goods from China one way or another. What the US is ripping you apart with now particularly, like the UK, is destroying public services, bringing in pvt equity and our infamous insurance companies. You cannot boycott your hiking rent and Perestroika. Think bigger.

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                    That’s correct, the difference is being aware that you are promoting inaction by framing a boycott as resistance against fascism. I am advocating for plotting an effective course of action rather than disorganized symbolic actions that make people feel good about themselves. You are advocating for following the boilerplate protest strategy that has been used to sabotage antiwar movements for decades.

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      16 hours ago

      You can’t articulate why this should give anyone hope, all you can do is scold them.