That goes against any knowledge and experiences available, I’ve never seen or heard of a single adoption centre who’d allow it either; if the cat is an outdoor cat they’ll never let you take it unless you can let it out as well, and cats who’re accustomed to a secured balcony or a Catio also require it to be adopted. That’s why it’s important to raise a cat as indoor cat in the first place.
Do you have any sort of proof of the opposite?
Adopted a cat that was a stray for 2 years and adoption center encouraged me to keep her as an indoor cat. As she has gotten older I have given her supervised outdoor time as in I am feet away from her at all times but for her first year she pretty happily lived in a studio apt without a balcony and whenever I had to bring her to the car she would get super panicked and nervous from being outside
Not any cats, but those who’re already accustomed to the outdoors. I’ve been to multiple animal shelters in Germany over the years, all of them had information about if a cat required access to the outdoors to be happy. And that was a requirement for adoption of those cats. You can see it here for example at the Hamburg shelter Süderstraße, the biggest one in the city. Every cat or group of cats has the “Haltungsanforderung” (adoption requirements) mentioned, most of them “Freigang” (“Freeroam”) since they often receive strays and there’re less people in the city who can provide that.
I’ve no clue where the hell you all live or how big your houses usually are, but despite the known heavoc freeroaming cats can cause: if they are freeroamers then, according to the professionals at the shelters I spoke with, suddenly keeping them in an average apartment (i.e. ~60m²) would be almost abuse and they will not let you adopt a cat if the cats individual requirements aren’t met.
And to be clear once more, the shelters don’t advocate for everyone to let their cats out. They advocate and educate so people won’t do it in the first place, BUT if a cat already knows the outside and would go mad inside they respect the animals’ requirements.
Well every region is different so you can’t entirely generalize. What I meant though is that outdoor cats are defended in Europe by veterinarians, but the opposite can happen in areas of the US. It leads to people arguing back and forth while both are appealing to different authorities, yet referring to them as the same.
You CAN generalize the behaviour of cats! The highest possible well-being of the cat is unfortunately not the most significant factor. House cats are by many metrics (eg extirpation of birds and mammals) the most destructive species on the planet. If the world cannot be protected from a cat because it can’t be safely homed as an indoor animal, even if it has to accept some unhappiness in the process, then the cat needs to be destroyed.
That goes against any knowledge and experiences available, I’ve never seen or heard of a single adoption centre who’d allow it either; if the cat is an outdoor cat they’ll never let you take it unless you can let it out as well, and cats who’re accustomed to a secured balcony or a Catio also require it to be adopted. That’s why it’s important to raise a cat as indoor cat in the first place. Do you have any sort of proof of the opposite?
Adopted a cat that was a stray for 2 years and adoption center encouraged me to keep her as an indoor cat. As she has gotten older I have given her supervised outdoor time as in I am feet away from her at all times but for her first year she pretty happily lived in a studio apt without a balcony and whenever I had to bring her to the car she would get super panicked and nervous from being outside
I’d love to see this cat adoption center that advocates that any cats should be allowed to roam. Sounds pretty sus. Got a link?
Not any cats, but those who’re already accustomed to the outdoors. I’ve been to multiple animal shelters in Germany over the years, all of them had information about if a cat required access to the outdoors to be happy. And that was a requirement for adoption of those cats. You can see it here for example at the Hamburg shelter Süderstraße, the biggest one in the city. Every cat or group of cats has the “Haltungsanforderung” (adoption requirements) mentioned, most of them “Freigang” (“Freeroam”) since they often receive strays and there’re less people in the city who can provide that.
I’ve no clue where the hell you all live or how big your houses usually are, but despite the known heavoc freeroaming cats can cause: if they are freeroamers then, according to the professionals at the shelters I spoke with, suddenly keeping them in an average apartment (i.e. ~60m²) would be almost abuse and they will not let you adopt a cat if the cats individual requirements aren’t met.
And to be clear once more, the shelters don’t advocate for everyone to let their cats out. They advocate and educate so people won’t do it in the first place, BUT if a cat already knows the outside and would go mad inside they respect the animals’ requirements.
Europe is different than north America.
In many ways, yes. Not in the respect of the damage cats do. That’s nutty.
Well every region is different so you can’t entirely generalize. What I meant though is that outdoor cats are defended in Europe by veterinarians, but the opposite can happen in areas of the US. It leads to people arguing back and forth while both are appealing to different authorities, yet referring to them as the same.
You CAN generalize the behaviour of cats! The highest possible well-being of the cat is unfortunately not the most significant factor. House cats are by many metrics (eg extirpation of birds and mammals) the most destructive species on the planet. If the world cannot be protected from a cat because it can’t be safely homed as an indoor animal, even if it has to accept some unhappiness in the process, then the cat needs to be destroyed.