I have zero sympathy for the brainless NPCs that lookednat what gr•k said and ran with it as though it’s fact. Trusting one of those clankers is just as bad as saying you saw it in a lucid dream and therefore it’s 100% accurate.
I could make fake headlines on a dozen topics that would get lemmy to upvote me like crazy. Place information that conforms to someone’s belief system under their nose, ya got 'em. Works best if the headline is rage inducing.
Even when revealed as fake, people tend to fall back on, “Well that headline may be fake, but it’s still happening in the real world.”
Just came off a post where half the commenters obviously didn’t read the article, not even the first paragraph. People get beat up on here daily for simply stating an uncomfortable, yet incontrovertible, fact.
This happened just yesterday with a post from Tom’s hardware.
Said that Linux gaming was upto 30% faster than Windows.
The testing was flawed for anyone that looked at the source video, the hardware was running at different power limits and this higher clock speeds for gpu and cpu.
People started talking major shit against windows because of it.
Genuine question: how? Even calling someone an asshole is technically dehumanising since an asshole is only a small part of a being at best. How would you express “this person acts as if they do not think for themselves but are controlled by a very simple set of instructions imposed from the outside” (without using up your character limit)?
You… uh… you acknowledge that that statement is the dehumanizing thought you’re building upon and stop thinking of people like that. Every person is living their own life. Assigning a value judgement to them based on how you perceive them is mastubatory at best, actively harmful at worst.
Yes, not everyone cares about the things you value. No, that doesn’t remove their value.
So that would mean you shouldn’t insult anyone? Didn’t you just say you CAN be insulting without dehumanising? I’m genuinely trying to understand, not seeking a fight.
I didn’t say that. The way you described what is probably most people implies that they’re subhuman, which is… gross for lack of a less incendiary term. That threw me so hard I had to address it. Sorry.
Insults for people in the group I think you’re talking about that aren’t dehumanizing: normies, regulars, sleepers. All of those acknowledge the person’s humanity first while creating the othering space around the person talking. An important distinction from similar, but reversed terms like: sheep, sheeple, NPCs, puppets
NPC carries the connotation that they exist for other’s amusement, that their thoughts and experiences aren’t valuable or even real. Also, it carries the connotation that the person speaking and people like them are the “real” people (since NPC is a specific term to differentiate from the PC).
I have zero sympathy for the brainless NPCs that lookednat what gr•k said and ran with it as though it’s fact. Trusting one of those clankers is just as bad as saying you saw it in a lucid dream and therefore it’s 100% accurate.
I could make fake headlines on a dozen topics that would get lemmy to upvote me like crazy. Place information that conforms to someone’s belief system under their nose, ya got 'em. Works best if the headline is rage inducing.
Even when revealed as fake, people tend to fall back on, “Well that headline may be fake, but it’s still happening in the real world.”
Just came off a post where half the commenters obviously didn’t read the article, not even the first paragraph. People get beat up on here daily for simply stating an uncomfortable, yet incontrovertible, fact.
This happened just yesterday with a post from Tom’s hardware.
Said that Linux gaming was upto 30% faster than Windows.
The testing was flawed for anyone that looked at the source video, the hardware was running at different power limits and this higher clock speeds for gpu and cpu.
People started talking major shit against windows because of it.
Btw the term clanker was a word that meant robot fucker. So I think it applies to the LLMs and those that use them. Useless clankers.
Don’t fucking call people NPCs. You can be insulting without being dehumanizing.
Genuine question: how? Even calling someone an asshole is technically dehumanising since an asshole is only a small part of a being at best. How would you express “this person acts as if they do not think for themselves but are controlled by a very simple set of instructions imposed from the outside” (without using up your character limit)?
My friend calls them puppets. I find it quite apt.
You… uh… you acknowledge that that statement is the dehumanizing thought you’re building upon and stop thinking of people like that. Every person is living their own life. Assigning a value judgement to them based on how you perceive them is mastubatory at best, actively harmful at worst.
Yes, not everyone cares about the things you value. No, that doesn’t remove their value.
So that would mean you shouldn’t insult anyone? Didn’t you just say you CAN be insulting without dehumanising? I’m genuinely trying to understand, not seeking a fight.
Insulting people isn’t the same as dehumanizing them.
NPCs aren’t people so it’s okay, or even fun, to kill them. There’s implications when you apply this to actual human beings.
That’s why Elon Musk calls people NPCs, after all.
I didn’t say that. The way you described what is probably most people implies that they’re subhuman, which is… gross for lack of a less incendiary term. That threw me so hard I had to address it. Sorry.
Insults for people in the group I think you’re talking about that aren’t dehumanizing: normies, regulars, sleepers. All of those acknowledge the person’s humanity first while creating the othering space around the person talking. An important distinction from similar, but reversed terms like: sheep, sheeple, NPCs, puppets
NPC carries the connotation that they exist for other’s amusement, that their thoughts and experiences aren’t valuable or even real. Also, it carries the connotation that the person speaking and people like them are the “real” people (since NPC is a specific term to differentiate from the PC).
You said that, btw.
Shut up