• Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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    17 days ago

    Are you ready to throw your life away and turn against everything you’ve learned in your life? This isn’t like Vietnam where you could get away with dropping a live grenade in the tent of your commanding officer because you are in the jungle with the next town 5 miles away; they are literally at home and every move against your own will end with you being subjected to a traitors treatment.

    I’m pretty sure a lot of them are conscripts, since there’s a mandatory military draft with a duration of 2+ years. Those are young, inexperienced minds that are thrown into a machinery that has had decades of experience in how to make you do things you don’t want to do.

    So yeah, they are victims: victims of propaganda, victims of a military complex that knows how to break you. If you want to damn someone do it with those that keep on killing innocents, not those who kill themselves so they don’t have to do more killing.

    • Hestia [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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      17 days ago

      Are you ready to throw your life away and turn against everything you’ve learned in your life?

      I’m not a monstrous piece of shit so I’ll never find myself in this kind of situation. There is not a single moment in my life where I have supported the military actions of the US despite living in the Imperial core, and it’s not like my parents were anti-war hippies or something.

      Victims of propaganda

      The only victims of their propaganda that I care about are the innocent people they’ve slaughtered.

      • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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        17 days ago

        I don’t think you realize that you are blessed that you didn’t grow up in Israel. Refusing to serve because of your conscience gets you an exemption in 10% of cases there. The 90% who didn’t want to serve but had no other choice are not monsters, they are caught between a rock and a hard place. Even those who got lucky and didn’t have to serve lose most of their job chances and are branded as undemocratic and traitors - even the “leftwing”-Israelis look down on the “refuseniks”. If you flee your country to dodge the draft, you can never come back, leaving behind everyone who you hold dear.

        You can call what most of them DO monstrous (and i agree fully), but they are still human beings. And to feel such remorse that you take your own life is very human - more than any of those who continue to kill can ever be.