I’m convinced that many people who’ve never lived in the southern USA have absolutely no concept of how viable public transportation doesn’t fucking exist, yet housing is typically 30-40 minutes from where business center locations are.
You say that like the reason for those things isn’t because of the design of the cities. It is exactly advocating for the car centric design that keeps it car centric down here. Sincerely somebody who’s lived in the south their whole life but doesn’t think cars should define your life
Never been to Atlanta, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Tampa, or any city in the south huh?
You’re pretty much who my comment was about. My comment wasn’t in response to a picture, it was in response to uninformed people.
There’s a TON of people in the south that cannot escape for financial reasons. They’d much rather not have to drive everywhere. I’m 100% against victim shaming, which is what I took SwingingTheLamp’s comment to be.
Yeah, I have to spend two hours on the bus when it takes half an hour to drive downtown. They have great bus service if you’re within walking distance of the downtown area, but until earlier this year the last bus home left the station at 4p. Now the last bus home leaves at 6p.
I haven’t owned a car in a while, and I cannot even find a job because employers don’t want to work around the useless bus schedule.
Sort of? I used to have a regular bicycle, but the route with the least grade is also the truck route with no shoulders on parts of it. I quit biking after I got run off the road by a semi, so I think the main problem is just a lack of infrastructure.
PNW sadly enough. The fuckin neolibs running the area are using public transit to virtue signal how green they are without actually spending the money to make it actually effective. Gotta look good, so there’s multiple 15min bus lines, but it only covers a couple square miles, so nobody wants to pay the $2 when they could just walk.
I almost moved to Seattle a few years ago. I loved Seattle, but I wanted to explore what was outside of Seattle. I could tell pretty quickly that the state of Washington wanted to consolidate it’s tax dollars in Seattle as much as possible to the detriment of the rest of the state that wasn’t Seattle.
You’re not wrong. It’s also not helped that they look for any excuse to cut service, like they cut service during the '08 crash, took nearly a decade to bring it back to something close to what it was, only for it to get cut back even farther during COVID. There used to be a bus between the train station and the bus station, but that got cut back in '17 for unknown reasons. Heaven forbid they actually help people with their public service.
They say they don’t want to expand the lines because nobody rides it, but that’s only because their timetables and routes are shit. The first bus goes by my neighborhood at 6:30a and it’s always packed to standing with people who start work at 9am. But I guess people being willing to stand on a bus going 50mph is “nobody”.
And that forces you to treat people without cars as sub-human? No sympathy, or even empathy, for people who have to navigate such a landscape without one?
I’m convinced that many people who’ve never lived in the southern USA have absolutely no concept of how viable public transportation doesn’t fucking exist, yet housing is typically 30-40 minutes from where business center locations are.
You say that like the reason for those things isn’t because of the design of the cities. It is exactly advocating for the car centric design that keeps it car centric down here. Sincerely somebody who’s lived in the south their whole life but doesn’t think cars should define your life
The image is of a dense urban area though, not some southern bumfuck town
Do people typically live that close to where they work though? All my coworkers live out of town, 30 min to 2 hours away by car.
That sounds like it has an easy solution.
Never been to Atlanta, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Tampa, or any city in the south huh?
You’re pretty much who my comment was about. My comment wasn’t in response to a picture, it was in response to uninformed people.
There’s a TON of people in the south that cannot escape for financial reasons. They’d much rather not have to drive everywhere. I’m 100% against victim shaming, which is what I took SwingingTheLamp’s comment to be.
Yeah, I have to spend two hours on the bus when it takes half an hour to drive downtown. They have great bus service if you’re within walking distance of the downtown area, but until earlier this year the last bus home left the station at 4p. Now the last bus home leaves at 6p.
I haven’t owned a car in a while, and I cannot even find a job because employers don’t want to work around the useless bus schedule.
Would a scooter, ebike, or commuter motorcycle like a used NC750X work?
Sort of? I used to have a regular bicycle, but the route with the least grade is also the truck route with no shoulders on parts of it. I quit biking after I got run off the road by a semi, so I think the main problem is just a lack of infrastructure.
Southern US city?
PNW sadly enough. The fuckin neolibs running the area are using public transit to virtue signal how green they are without actually spending the money to make it actually effective. Gotta look good, so there’s multiple 15min bus lines, but it only covers a couple square miles, so nobody wants to pay the $2 when they could just walk.
I almost moved to Seattle a few years ago. I loved Seattle, but I wanted to explore what was outside of Seattle. I could tell pretty quickly that the state of Washington wanted to consolidate it’s tax dollars in Seattle as much as possible to the detriment of the rest of the state that wasn’t Seattle.
You’re not wrong. It’s also not helped that they look for any excuse to cut service, like they cut service during the '08 crash, took nearly a decade to bring it back to something close to what it was, only for it to get cut back even farther during COVID. There used to be a bus between the train station and the bus station, but that got cut back in '17 for unknown reasons. Heaven forbid they actually help people with their public service.
They say they don’t want to expand the lines because nobody rides it, but that’s only because their timetables and routes are shit. The first bus goes by my neighborhood at 6:30a and it’s always packed to standing with people who start work at 9am. But I guess people being willing to stand on a bus going 50mph is “nobody”.
And that forces you to treat people without cars as sub-human? No sympathy, or even empathy, for people who have to navigate such a landscape without one?
What does your comment have to do with what I said? I genuinely do not understand what you are trying to correlate here…