Roblox is starting to roll out the mandatory age checks that will require all of its users to submit an ID or scan their face in order to access the platform's chat features.
personally i think a big part of the problem is that real-name identification for things that shouldn’t need it is just sort of accepted, rather than being criticised as the massive invasion of privacy that it is. whether it includes children or not is a side note in my mind.
well, we’re here. but the companies and governments pushing this are already looking at possible next steps, like building systems where your real identity is used everywhere.
no amount of age verification/id controls is stopping bad parents from failing their kids, it’s a pointless waste of time which ultimately opens up these kids/people to being even more vulnerable when somebody hacks their database.
if you run a business that provides some digital entertainment service to children, and facilitates their communication while using it…the only way your stopping groomers (or just generally keeping it from turning into a cesspool) is by actually paying people to moderate the chat rooms, simple as that
and, atleast in an unregulated shithole like the US…the only way they’ll do that is if they end up being held liable under some class action lawsuit
small communities like this are work because the population using it is still relatively small
either way you’re creating a database of people’s faces. it’s gonna be handled by a third party no matter what so whether you’re above or below the cutoff is just a flag.
…and how do you verify that chatters are over 18?
Just send one (1) child picture.
Ask for verification only to enable chat. So at least in theory it’s only adults.
Or, you know; don’t.
i mean, to matter which way you go you’ll have created a database of people’s real identities. which is a problem.
Yeah but at least it wouldn’t be mostly children.
did you bypass verification prompts as a child? so will they.
Yes, and Ana von mcfakenamesdottir the third, born jan1 1900 will be in the database forever.
hah.
personally i think a big part of the problem is that real-name identification for things that shouldn’t need it is just sort of accepted, rather than being criticised as the massive invasion of privacy that it is. whether it includes children or not is a side note in my mind.
Oh absolutely, and we should go back to 1990s anonymity
But here we are. Everything has an endoscope.
well, we’re here. but the companies and governments pushing this are already looking at possible next steps, like building systems where your real identity is used everywhere.
While I don’t love age verification, taking 3d webcam scans from adults won’t create a catalog of kids.
edit: and to clarify, IDGAF about chat ID verifications for almost all sites, but Roblox is marketed explicitly toward and occupied by children.
no amount of age verification/id controls is stopping bad parents from failing their kids, it’s a pointless waste of time which ultimately opens up these kids/people to being even more vulnerable when somebody hacks their database.
if you run a business that provides some digital entertainment service to children, and facilitates their communication while using it…the only way your stopping groomers (or just generally keeping it from turning into a cesspool) is by actually paying people to moderate the chat rooms, simple as that
and, atleast in an unregulated shithole like the US…the only way they’ll do that is if they end up being held liable under some class action lawsuit
small communities like this are work because the population using it is still relatively small
either way you’re creating a database of people’s faces. it’s gonna be handled by a third party no matter what so whether you’re above or below the cutoff is just a flag.
What’s stopping them from running a client model? Why even send the images home?
the fact that they want the data.