Man I’m real tired of the constant negativity around new games. I rarely see positive stuff online.
You don’t like a game? Just move on. Hell, downvotes and move on. But leaving comments on things like screenshots about how idiotic a game is, man find something else to do.
I agree OP, it is a gorgeous game. The landscapes are incredibly striking
It does help those on the fence make a more informed decision whether to purchase or not. Just whitewashing with only positive reviews and comments is misleading and stifles innovation. Trolling and opinions without examples suck and should be ‘downvoted.’
BG3 has plenty of bugs but has glowing reviews for a new game. People should be able to voice their opinions without attacking other users and receive the same in return.
I have put in over 50 hours and enjoy this game, but would definitely NOT recommend it to someone who isn’t familiar with Bethesda’s other titles.
There’s a thousand places to leave negative reviews. I’m just annoyed at the “Hey look X game has a cool thing” and the immediate “You enjoy X game? You’re an idiot for finding enjoyment out of this, you’re stupid, look how cool I look for shitting on it”. It’s transparent and annoying.
Voice your opinions sure, but if all you do though is shit on people for enjoying something, then that’s a dick move.
I don’t think anybody is shitting on anyone. It’s a public forum and we’re all allowed to say what we think.
How shallow would the discourse be if we were limited to only talking about things positively?
Everyone has their own tastes.
I played through and enjoyed cyberpunk a couple of months after launch at a time when it was roundly shat upon but it didn’t spoil the game for me.
I don’t think anybody is shitting on anyone
It’s a public forum and we’re all allowed to say what we think
How shallow would the discourse be if we were limited to only talking about things positively?
It doesn’t matter what you think. Try posting something positive about starfield - even in the Starfield community. You will get shat on. A lot.
The problem isn’t that negativity doesn’t have a space, its that positivity doesn’t have a space. If someone posts something positive and gets shit on, they’re going to be less likely to post positive things in the future. Or react to negativity with their own positivity. That’s how psychology works. We do a thing and get a shock, we’ll be less likely to do it again.
But more importantly, a lot of negative nancies on the internet love to defend yukking on other’s yums with lofty goals around “discourse” and “free speech”. But they seem to forget that’s not how the real world or human psychology works. This post isn’t looking for “discourse”. OP is just saying " wow this game has cool vistas" maybe hoping for some stories or reinforcement or fun conversations with other fans and you all are responding with “game sucks”. What is this “discourse” supposed to accomplish other than, at best piss off OP, and at worst tear down his enjoyment of the game.
I mean think about it. What if someone were showing off a coat they brought and like with some randos, and you waltz in and are like “that coat’s fucking ugly and you should feel bad about buying it.” What kind of discourse would you expect other than “the hell? Who asked you? Fuck off”.
Sure, we’re all entitled to post and reply what we want, but it won’t stop us from calling you an asshole. You want to shit on a game? Go for it, there’s plenty of hate circlejerks you can join in on.
I was specifically meaning that I didn’t think anyone was shitting on anybody here in this thread.
I didn’t say the game sucked or that it’s fucking ugly or any of those other hyperbolic statements. I read somebody else’s thoughts on the game and provided my own.
I agree the game can look very good, I said I really enjoyed some of the quests. I’m not a part of the starfield community, I’m not trying to piss on anybodies parade. I just like playing games and talking about games I’ve played.
Right, because the people who are paid to review the full game over hundreds of hours and have spent, in many cases, years, analyzing their biases and determining the right way to construct objective criticsm and have peer review editors to check their work…
Nah. Randos on the internet who have tendancy to form circlejerks for fake internet points and for minor doses of dopamine and who may or may not have even completed even a tiny portion of the game - that’s what I need to make an informed decision.
EDIT Lol at the coward downvotes with no replies. You know I’m right, you just don’t want to admit it.
Just makes me wonder if the same thing happens in other communities. Say someone posts a photo of a National Park, are there replies how they’ve hiked most of the trails at that park and decided it’s not worth visiting?
I can see both sides too, “well we are informing people about the cons of that park, so they aren’t eaten by the vicious bears!”. I get that, I do! People have an opinion they want to share, nothing really wrong with that. Does that understanding make it enjoyable for me as the person just sharing the photo? Not so much…😂
Man I’m real tired of the constant negativity around new games. I rarely see positive stuff online.
You don’t like a game? Just move on. Hell, downvotes and move on. But leaving comments on things like screenshots about how idiotic a game is, man find something else to do.
I agree OP, it is a gorgeous game. The landscapes are incredibly striking
It does help those on the fence make a more informed decision whether to purchase or not. Just whitewashing with only positive reviews and comments is misleading and stifles innovation. Trolling and opinions without examples suck and should be ‘downvoted.’
BG3 has plenty of bugs but has glowing reviews for a new game. People should be able to voice their opinions without attacking other users and receive the same in return.
I have put in over 50 hours and enjoy this game, but would definitely NOT recommend it to someone who isn’t familiar with Bethesda’s other titles.
There’s a thousand places to leave negative reviews. I’m just annoyed at the “Hey look X game has a cool thing” and the immediate “You enjoy X game? You’re an idiot for finding enjoyment out of this, you’re stupid, look how cool I look for shitting on it”. It’s transparent and annoying.
Voice your opinions sure, but if all you do though is shit on people for enjoying something, then that’s a dick move.
I don’t think anybody is shitting on anyone. It’s a public forum and we’re all allowed to say what we think. How shallow would the discourse be if we were limited to only talking about things positively? Everyone has their own tastes. I played through and enjoyed cyberpunk a couple of months after launch at a time when it was roundly shat upon but it didn’t spoil the game for me.
It doesn’t matter what you think. Try posting something positive about starfield - even in the Starfield community. You will get shat on. A lot.
The problem isn’t that negativity doesn’t have a space, its that positivity doesn’t have a space. If someone posts something positive and gets shit on, they’re going to be less likely to post positive things in the future. Or react to negativity with their own positivity. That’s how psychology works. We do a thing and get a shock, we’ll be less likely to do it again.
But more importantly, a lot of negative nancies on the internet love to defend yukking on other’s yums with lofty goals around “discourse” and “free speech”. But they seem to forget that’s not how the real world or human psychology works. This post isn’t looking for “discourse”. OP is just saying " wow this game has cool vistas" maybe hoping for some stories or reinforcement or fun conversations with other fans and you all are responding with “game sucks”. What is this “discourse” supposed to accomplish other than, at best piss off OP, and at worst tear down his enjoyment of the game.
I mean think about it. What if someone were showing off a coat they brought and like with some randos, and you waltz in and are like “that coat’s fucking ugly and you should feel bad about buying it.” What kind of discourse would you expect other than “the hell? Who asked you? Fuck off”.
Sure, we’re all entitled to post and reply what we want, but it won’t stop us from calling you an asshole. You want to shit on a game? Go for it, there’s plenty of hate circlejerks you can join in on.
I was specifically meaning that I didn’t think anyone was shitting on anybody here in this thread. I didn’t say the game sucked or that it’s fucking ugly or any of those other hyperbolic statements. I read somebody else’s thoughts on the game and provided my own. I agree the game can look very good, I said I really enjoyed some of the quests. I’m not a part of the starfield community, I’m not trying to piss on anybodies parade. I just like playing games and talking about games I’ve played.
Right, because the people who are paid to review the full game over hundreds of hours and have spent, in many cases, years, analyzing their biases and determining the right way to construct objective criticsm and have peer review editors to check their work…
Nah. Randos on the internet who have tendancy to form circlejerks for fake internet points and for minor doses of dopamine and who may or may not have even completed even a tiny portion of the game - that’s what I need to make an informed decision.
EDIT Lol at the coward downvotes with no replies. You know I’m right, you just don’t want to admit it.
Just makes me wonder if the same thing happens in other communities. Say someone posts a photo of a National Park, are there replies how they’ve hiked most of the trails at that park and decided it’s not worth visiting?
I can see both sides too, “well we are informing people about the cons of that park, so they aren’t eaten by the vicious bears!”. I get that, I do! People have an opinion they want to share, nothing really wrong with that. Does that understanding make it enjoyable for me as the person just sharing the photo? Not so much…😂
You have this a lot in Apple user dooming Android, just to never get out of the golden cage.