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    “Small price to pay for the freedom to travel”

    -An actual thing that’s been said to me before when I brought up other environmental issues

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      Nothing says “freedom” like a tool that costs tens of thousands to buy and thousands every year to maintain and use.

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        Also the traveling part is generally tedious, uncomfortable and boring unless you have a super big luxury car. I’d much rather travel by high-speed rail.

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          I looove taking the train, I can stand up, move around, chat, eat and drink.

          I was hanging out in the Cafe car a few weeks ago on a 9 hr trip playing video games on my laptop. Got chatting with some folks, 3 of us one by one broke out our respective liquors and made a party of it.

          Can’t do that on I-95.

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            I was hanging out in the Cafe car a few weeks ago on a 9 hr trip playing video games on my laptop. Got chatting with some folks, 3 of us one by one broke out our respective liquors and made a party of it.

            Can’t do that on I-95.

            sure you can they just take away your driving license after

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      “Small price to pay for the freedom to travel”

      Well, they pay a small price for their freedom to travel. It’s everybody else that has to suffer the externalities of their choices.

      Let’s tax antisocial behavior, so that these externalities are internalized. Carbon tax, vehicle weight per passenger tax, vehicle volume per passenger tax, etc.

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        ‘Be careful now, you’re starting to sound like a communist.’ they say.

        Seriously though, you’re right, we should do all that. Switching over to EVs won’t solve very many problems. Everywhere needs to have fewer vehicles in the road and that’s public transit.

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          Fuck them.

          They also call me a communist now because I think a 40 hour work week should put a basic roof (efficiency on your own or maybe a basic 2br with a roomie) over your head no matter what you’re doing.

          Turns out the “Red Scare™” will always return whenever capitalism starts fraying at the seams to keep people from exploring even the slightest reforms.

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        Yep. Whenever I travel I ask around my friend group if anyone is interested and those same people always have a list of excuses as to why they can’t take a week to fuck off in NYC.

        I really think alot of it is “I can’t take my car 😭,” cause I’ve gone with them to things all the time on road trips, but as soon as I’m taking a train the excuses roll in.

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      It’s not even a freedom to travel… It’s a requirement. You want to live in area where you don’t need need a car? Only a few cities in America make that reality possible. If you want/have to live/work anywhere else… You need a car. That’s not freedom. Also those places where you don’t need a car are very expensive to live in.

      Its not a lack of rails and light rails… It’s a lack of local transportation that’s fast and reliable.

      People actually use the bus system in Ann Arbor because it runs on time, frequently and is clean. I’m all for a transportation haven but a lot of cities can’t even walk and are trying to run.

      Detroits Q Line is a good example of running before you can walk. The bus system is god awful. Late. No shows. Generally unreliable. Then they just slapped a thing on top of it that’s probably even less reliable…