• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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    This got reported as “not LAMF” on the grounds that this person voted for lower grocery prices and got higher ones. This is an understandable argument, because just getting tricked on its own (even if you’re unbelievably stupid to think that things like illegal tariffs and deregulation wouldn’t do this) is not LAMF.

    So let me explain why I kept the post up and still think it fits: she expressly voted for somebody who promised to cut programs like SNAP which make Thanksgivings affordable for millions of people. She expressly wanted these people hurt – to have their Thanksgivings ruined – because to her, they didn’t deserve it.

    “I never thought the leopards would make groceries unaffordable for me!”

    Edit: That said, @bytesonbike@discuss.online, please add alt text to your image or a transcription in the post body for accessibility in accordance with Rule 4.

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    This tweet is essentially:

    You promised to lower prices, but prices went up, this is NOT what I voted for.

    For it to be LAMF, you have to actually get what you’re expecting others to get. The person you voted for NOT doing what they promised to do is literally the opposite of LAMF.

    Basically:

    I voted for the Leopards Eating Faces party, I never thought they’d…wait, they’re not eating anyone’s faces

    is the equivalent of the situation happening here.

    Not LAMF.

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      If you think about it on a bigger scale, it still is her getting what she expected others to get. The Trumpian/fictional definition of tariffs claims that other countries will now “pay their fair share”. Which is utter bullshit because the companies have always passed on as much of the cost of a tariff as the market will bear, if they can afford to absorb any at all. In interviews they are STILL repeatedly pretending like other countries are paying the tariffs and the rise in costs has nothing to do with them.

      Anyways, she expected other countries costs to go up, not hers. Classic leopard eating face, imo.

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        I think even ‘adjacent’ is giving it too much credit.

        After all, what’s happened is the literal opposite of what they wanted, while LAMF requires that the thing you supported happening is what happens, you just thought it’d happen to others and not you.

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          I think that to make an adequate determination of that, we would have to know what they did vote for.

          Sure, we can infer it’s probably not a higher grocery bill, but that’s what they didn’t vote for.

          We need to know what they did vote for and whether it relates to the situation at hand.

          Since their motives for voting how they did are impossible to know from this individual post, we would be unable to make an adequate judgement call as to how LAMF, or LAMF adjacent this might, or might not be.

          So everything we’re saying now is conjecture and opinion.

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          Trump promised to do tariffs. People assumed other countries would pay the cost so that was good. It turns out they are paying the cost.

          It would be straight up LAMF if the tariffs were front of mind when they voted. But inflation was what they were most concerned with, and they either didn’t pay attention to Trump’s tariff talk or assumed it wouldn’t be them paying the tariffs… you could say it’s not directly LAMF because people don’t understand the connection between higher tariffs and higher prices, but definitely LAMF adjacent because of the widespread assumption that people in other countries would be paying the tariffs, not them.

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    Fun Fact, since executive orders really only apply to the operations of the federal government and its employees, the Tariffs aren’t actually legal.

    Big shipping magnates and importers could probably sue the federal government over any attempt to enforce the tariff, ignoring them all the while.

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        I bet someone she knows explained it to her, but rather than let herself be convinced, she doubled down.

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          Absolutely. She 100% heard the explanation and ignored it because “that’s just lies against my big beautiful president,” and went on her way. I literally just went through it with my Trump voting uncle. I went through what he did that has directly hurt him. The response? I watch too much news.

          Biggest fight I ever “started” with them was… Asking what specifically about Trump 1’s tax policy benefit them. I mean I know that I asked it because I knew that they didn’t make nearly enough to actually see a single cent of a tax cut from that round in 2017. But apparently his wife really didn’t appreciate my asking about it because all I got in response was “Doesn’t matter, still voting for him” after she specifically brought up taxes as the reason again mind you. I just asked her what specific benefit they got from his tax cuts. But I heard from my Mom that apparently I made that aunt really mad.

          So mad in fact I have literally never seen her since actually come to think of it. They divorced not long after that, she moved to PA and is a fucking gay rights conservative which is fucking wild.

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            Your uncle?

            This is what you call Oppositional Defiance Disorder, plus also being in a death cult.

            https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/oppositional-defiant-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20375831

            Even the best-behaved children can be difficult and challenging at times. But oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) includes a frequent and ongoing pattern of anger, irritability, arguing and defiance toward parents and other authority figures. ODD also includes being spiteful and seeking revenge, a behavior called vindictiveness.

            These emotional and behavioral issues cause serious problems with family life, social activities, school and work. But as a parent, you don’t have to try to manage a child with ODD alone. Your health care provider, a mental health professional and a child development expert can help.

            These are adults with an adult version of a pathological vindictiveness that is generally seen in ‘problem children’.

            They literally are whiny, pissy, adult toddlers.

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              The aunt is more the ODD one. My uncle was the more recent interaction of “ignoring the facts because they don’t vibe with his feelings.” Don’t ask me how the hell they stayed married as long as they did.

              My partner’s actually got her degree in behavioral pharmacology because what do you mean you told an autist that actually there are rules you can learn for human social bullshit and it’s not all some variation of “because I said so” or “that’s how we always did it” and there’s also a field within that where I don’t even have to really interact with any people? She was going to go super deep into the research route until she learned she was violently allergic to the rats then life just kinda happened from there. Anyway she clocked a lot of that in my aunt after meeting her literally fucking once lmao.

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                Seeing as I basically no longer consider MAGATs to be truly sentient, much less sapient:

                She was going to go super deep into the research route until she learned she was violently allergic to the rats then life just kinda happened from there.

                That’s the real tragedy here, damn, that fucking sucks.

                EDIT:

                Uh, anyway, yeah I’m an autist too, don’t have a degree in psych or pharma, but I do have pattern recognition, curiosity, analytical skills… and a whole fuckton of ©PTSD from my own truly astoundingly dysfunctional family.

                As in: I ghosted them / went no contact with them so hard that they very probably think I am dead.

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                  As in: I ghosted them / went no contact with them so hard that they very probably think I am dead.

                  Ayyy High Five for cutting off Toxic POS former family!

                  So far only my Dad has pissed me off bad enough to go full no contact. My wife had a kid already when she and I met. Now I love my son to bits, and because reasons I had well founded suspicions when my wife and I eventually decided to have another child that my Dad would play favorites. I told him many times in no uncertain terms this would not be tolerated.

                  So you can imagine my raw seething anger when I overheard him on the phone with my mother ask her “How it felt to finally be a Grandma?” She’d come up to help me with the oldest because the twins were born during the height of covid and he wasn’t allowed in the hospital with me. But my wife and I had been together for like 4 years at this point and married for almost 2 and to my Mom’s credit she shut him down right quick but I was already seeing Red lmao.

                  Of course then the dumb bastard had the sheer unmitigated audacity to claim when I texted him my grievances because I cry when I’m angry and I was angrier than I’ve ever been in my entire life that I wasn’t the one saying any of this and that my wife was texting for me. (Because he can’t text on his own and his girlfriend has to write all his emails and text messages you see.) So obviously this wouldn’t be something that I would actually be angry about and I have to prove that I’m actually there one saying it by calling him so he can dismiss my words and steamroll the conversation.

                  Here’s to peace without the people who cause so much pain! And to the long road of recovery that follows~

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    Reality is the president doesn’t, or more accurately, shouldn’t control the economy.

    …Perhaps utterly worshipping one man was not the best idea? As history has repeatedly shown?

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      Oh boy, history repeatedly shows how everything goes south.

      This mantra of individual responsibility is getting the US nowhere. Billionaires learned how to work collectively while one half of Americans blamed the other half for the problems the billionaires invented. Get your shit together and stop blaming your neighbor

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        I meant indviduals more than individualism.

        This feels like religious worship, or influencer worship, to me. At least for some people I’ve observed.

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          What do you think happens when a candidate receives enormous financial support and is somewhat charismatic? It’s not these people who complain about the groceries to blame.

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      I’ve seen 5 guys praying together with a single woman. Well it looked like she was praying for a few minutes.

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        “Oh God” is a prayer right? In that cases she was praying again and again and again.

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          Guys can only pray with 5 guys at one time unless the other guys are praying too with others. Yeah they usually also scream oh god too.

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    I’d be curious to find out what all of these “this is not what I voted for” people thought they were actually voting for and why they thought that

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      They thought abusing brown people would magically fix all the things they told were bad like universal healthcare, feeding children, and safety regulations.

      They actually thought things would be cheaper with tariffs because Trump said so. They are hateful morons.

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        They are not even thinking that deep. They just think handing assholes with power even more power is how to create more prosperity.

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      I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it wasn’t just about racism. Sure there are Republicans that are racist but there’s still a good percentage of Liberals that are racist too. I think the facts of the matter do indeed matter, and unfortunately that comes with a plethora of misinformation and campaigns designed to target underprivileged voters. Low literacy rates will also exacerbate the divide. I’m so tired of this tirade that because “XYZ” people can’t be treated with human decency. I still believe Republicans deserve a good life, as well as immigrants, poor people, and Democrats. Thats literally the point of leftism is to practise distribution of goods on a need basis instead of on merit.

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        This isn’t 2016 anymore. These people voted for him a 3rd time well after he made it very clear what he stood for. Racism is his defining feature.

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      They voted for things getting cheaper. And not believing that politicians can just make shit up and getting away with it

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        This^

        A lot of them saw the Biden “I did that” stickers blaming him for fuel prices at gas stations, and they believed it.

        They saw Trump on Fox News saying that other countries would eat the cost of tariffs because they would rather lose profit than our business, and they believed it.

        They didn’t see Biden investigate grocers and deny mergers, they didn’t see him using the US petro reserves to stabilize prices, they didn’t see him pass the many great things on affordability in the Inflation Reduction Act, they didn’t see him push affordable alternatives to power and fuel like solar and EVs, they didn’t see him allow new drilling sites despite pushback, they didn’t see it because whenever it was put in their faces they chose not to see it.

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      Trump promised to lower prices. A complaint after he is in office about rising prices should make it very obvious what those people thought they were voting for.

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      After Covid the recovery was K shaped. So the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Trump was hammering out covid benefits, which actually helped a lot of people and before that the economy was doing well. A good bit of that was that Obama left it that way and the Republicans were divided enough to stop Trump from being as bad as he is today.

      So a lot of them just looked back and saw that they did better under Trump then Biden and voted for Trump.

      (Biden tried to do industrial policy, but that takes time, was delayed and money was spend baldy due to corruption. However the general plan was decent.)

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    “this is NOT what I thought I voted for when I knowingly voted to be taxed on all foreign food and to lock up the people picking domestic food” …Well, then what did you think you were voting for?

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      when I knowingly voted to be taxed on all foreign food

      You’re assuming “knowingly”. Trump told people tariffs were going to lower costs, falsely claiming that the foreign countries would be picking up that tab. If person X doesn’t independently know/learn that tariffs basically never work that way, then the OP reaction makes perfect sense.

      This also isn’t LAMF at all—LAMF is about supporting something being done, but expecting (without evidence) that it will only be done to Others, and not you. She obviously didn’t support raising prices at all—the person you voted for NOT doing as they promised is failing to meet the most fundamental requirement for an LAMF situation.

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    Mr. President, this is NOT what I voted for.

    Yes it is. This is exactly what you voted for. Trump 1 told you exactly how Trump 2 was going to go. We’re all eating shit, but I am happy your shit sandwich is slightly more unpalatable to you.

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    $300 for one meal? How many people is she feeding??

    Kroger

    Oh, so like 5.

    Aldi forever. No, it is not the same company as Trader Joe’s if you’re wanting to talk about union busting. I say this because it happens every time.

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      Dude, we got an Aldi in my town, and I love it. Sure some of the stuff is different, and even has a tad different flavor…but I almost always feel my heart aching with relief when I see how much we get from Aldi with such low prices. My food stamps go so much further there. Thst place is a blessing to me and my family.

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      You know that it’s common for people to feed 10 to 20 people on Thanksgiving, right? Plus there were probably leftovers and I highly doubt there was no alcohol in that purchase, which adds up quickly.

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        I think serving 20 easily comes to like 700 bucks. We just did it, 20 people over 6 families/ couples and we each only brought 1-3 dishes, but with all the ingredients for sides and desserts, and then drinks and juice and tablecloths and blah blah blah I think each family easily spent 70 and a few of us spent 200. And we’re frugal by nature, definitely Aldi shoppers, used real dishes instead of paper. There were plenty of leftovers, so you could argue it’s two meals, I guess. I guess it depends on your region, too.

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        Every Thanksgiving of my childhood involved at least 1 gathering with 20+ family members, no one person in my family ever spent the inflation adjusted equivalent of that on Thanksgiving because it just wasn’t a financial option. Every household brought 1 or 2 dishes so that the host wasn’t responsible for paying to feed everyone, because when you have a large extended family that’s nuts.