• Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    No one has mentioned anything yet what the right offers to help men as a solution. They only said going right as a ‘fuck you too’ threat towards the left.

    You have a choice. Be the change or make threats.

    If you got a flat tire you can pull over to the side of the road and either:

    1: repair it

    or

    2: punch a hole into the rest of the tires and bitterly yell at all the other cars for having working tires.

    If the second was your choice, you can’t pretend for a moment you got involved legitimately to fix a tire. It is a choice. It is your choice. Not everyone else. Not the left. Yours.

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      21 hours ago

      The right offers community for men and a traditional pathway to life milestones that are a core part of happiness for men. This pathway of work hard, go to church, meet a women from church, have kids is very appealing for a lot of men.

      They offer structure, discipline and motivation for young men to better themselves.

      There is more but these are core I think.

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        19 hours ago

        yep. for some reason the left thinks men wanting these things is evil and wrong. it’s bizarre. but if a woman wants those things they are 100% on board. tons of comments in here shitting on men for wanting stability, family and community.

        right thinks men are people and offers them what people want. left doesn’t’ see men as people, it seems them as monsters of entitlement who deserve nothing and should have zero complaints because they are ‘privileged’.

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          17 hours ago

          right thinks men are people

          I’d disagree here and say that the right see men as ‘useful’ and play off that.

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        19 hours ago

        And take any chance you get to troll online to threaten hostility to the left. That is after all why you’re here in this thread on this topic. It isn’t offering much in the way of dealing with feelings and handling challenges of life.

        The whole thing hinges on a fragile balance on a very specific mindset that isn’t sustainable without following a very specific path.

        Easy to melt a snowflake under that kind of pressure.

        And throwing away homosexual men. Their safety isn’t even considered in your one little check box box when they face some of the biggest challenges among men.

        Not really convincing me that men’s health is the forefront of your interest here.

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          17 hours ago

          Fuck off. I’m not trolling or “threatening hostility to the left”. I offered my perspective on what attracts people to right wing ideo

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      23 hours ago

      they listen and acknowledge their problems. instead of telling men to shut up and fuck off and die.

      the fact you think the left having to acknowledge men as legitimate human beings who suffer is sacriled5igous is precisely the problem. the right treats them like people, and isn’t ‘ashamed’ to ask for their support

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        19 hours ago

        So you think joining in threads just to rub threats in faces is the help men need. You’ve chosen Poking holes in all the tires and yell. That was your choice. The left didn’t make you this. You chose this.

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        22 hours ago

        Man, thats some high quality projection right there.

        I hope you’re getting paid well, because holy hell to be able to say that shit with a straight face is almost impressive.

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          19 hours ago

          Nah dude, i am just not an ideologue. I don’t view politics as one side good, other side bad. I don’t treat politics as if it’s religion where we must shun and kill the non-believers.

          And sadly that is a perspective so called ‘open minded tolerant’ leftists cannot abide. the possibility that maybe they are just as wrong and stupid as the people they hate because their politics is governed by belief and tribalism above all else. and how totally alienating that is the average person goes right over their heads, because they are true believers who think belief it and of itself justified all their shitty actions and words towards non-believers.

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            20 hours ago

            "Im totally not an idealogue, I’m totally open minded, thats why I can safely say that liberals are evilbad and republicans are flawless and love and respect everyone equally, despite 15 mount everests of facts and proof showing otherwise. Also its totally the democrats that want to kill non-believers, its totally not my pure, loving republican party that wants to do that. "

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              19 hours ago

              i never said any of that, but i’m glad you can’t take any criticsm of the leftism without devolving it into good vs evil. which is precisely why young men are anti-left. they don’t want to be told how evil they are. nobody does.

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                19 hours ago

                Yeah, Thats why young people are anti-left.

                It has nothing to do with the fact that there are entire youtube and facebook groups engineered for and dedicated to funneling the vulneralbe into the right wing hate machine, and how every one of them has family members concerned and saying they changed and became so hateful after starting to listen to whatever right wing predator dejure they picked up.

                No no, its the evil left, for being super evil with their calling out republican nonsense, propaganda, and lies.

                Truly, Republicans are the greatest, most oppressed victims on earth. Even Jesus weeps for the unfair cruelty of their plight.

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                    16 hours ago

                    Yes, both sides are the same.

                    Ones creating concentration camps and disappearing people… and the other wants you to have healthcare.

                    I see literally no difference in these sides.

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            19 hours ago

            Look at you. You’re blaming an entity for ‘abandoning’ you.

            You know who doesn’t sit around being bitter and live in fragile worry about being abandoned?

            People who actually reach out and deal with their mental health and take some ownership over it.

            Doesn’t sound like the right are helping you. Sounds like they are Just feeding you a victimhood complex.

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              19 hours ago

              i don’t support the right or the left. they are both largely ignorant ideologies that most get off on opposing each other than caring about real people and real problems.

              you realize that is a possibility, i hope. i’m a big gay weirdo who thinks everyone has the right to be happy and secure, no matter their beliefs or identity. i dont’ regard happiness and security to be awarded to people based on their political beliefs.

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      23 hours ago

      as anyone who has ever done any amount of volunteer work can confirm…you can’t help someone who doesn’t even think they have a problem, all you can do is try your best to inoculate yourself to their bullshit