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Qhy are cars more expensive?
I mean last I checked they fall under the category of “everything”.
Shareholders are the primary reason!
Republicans wake up in the morning trying to write down that idea in their dream where they hurt people and made money.
Ah yes, it’s definitely the regulations that are making those costs go up, not tariffs or CEO paychecks.
Won’t anyone think of the shareholders?!
What the fuck is with this title? This has zero to do with being “too safe” and everything to do with cost. Inflammatory title.
That said, I highly doubt any cost that’s saved on the car makers side will be passed down to the consumer.
Obviously not. They don’t want to bring prices down, they want to bring profits up. Representatives and senitors don’t give a shit about your safety in a car, but do care a lot about the big three car manufacturers stock buyback options. We’re less than worthless. We’re annoying voters they don’t need anymore, compated to a stock but back you’re a nuisance.
Ted Cruz is blaming life-saving car safety regulations for the rising cost of cars
This is correct. They will be cheaper. The question is not how much money is spent, but it is what you get for that money.
I’m sure if we get rid of all food safety laws there will be cheaper food available as well. It will make manufacturing much easier.
Likewise, if we eliminate the EPA and the huge amount of environmental protection laws we have, manufacturing will be much cheaper and feasible to do in the USA.
Chesterton’s Fence remains in effect, as ever. Fiddle with these rules at your own risk. Consequences don’t care about your feelings and the universe will make sure to pay you back.
But the prices won’t go down. Reductions in production costs are only reflected in sale prices when there’s a market force driving the costs down. Right now, people have to own cars, and the barriers to entry into the matlrket are too high for new competitors. There’s no reason for the auto manufacturers to lower prices if their costs go down. They can just pocket the difference.
They’ll get rid of the safety mechanisms to make the cars cheaper… to produce.
But you and me will still pay the same prices.
Because its corporate profits they are concerned about, not personal savings.
They may be cheaper, but they won’t be THAT much cheaper to make.
For the passenger? Very safe.
For the pedestrians that get hit? Ha! They’re literally death machines. At this point, I’m surprised we’re not putting spikes on the front of the car Mad Max style to ensure the pedestrians’ death.
Give credit where credit is due. Death race 2000 came out 4 years before mad max.
Y’all can buy these right now.
These certainly do have a use on freight trucks but not your urban crawler tho. They help identify loose and rotating lugs and give you a little means to know when you’re too close to a curb. Plus as you drive you can shred other people’s tires.
Edit: these being the silver spikes not the ghetto push on hubcaps
Those look like they’re far more likely to destroy your rims when they tangle up a branch or bundle of fencing wire on the road than ever do you an ounce of good.
Saw these idiotic rims on a smol penis indicator the other day.
I like to call them “Plus Sized” they get much more annoyed than calling them small pp mobiles
Dead cyclists and pedestrians less likely to sue.
The average Lemmy user seems to want more dead car owners.
Also, this thread has a lot of people voicing their opinions about what they want in a car. I too would prefer a much more basic auto for a cheaper price. But what do normal people actually want? They want all the bullshit. Auto makers also make great money on the bullshit, so they want to sell it to us. They also make great money when the bullshit breaks so they make more money on the back end.
Ah yes, it’s safety that makes newer cars expensive you see. Not the wireless key-fobs, power seats, built in ipad to replace the perfectly fine knobs and buttons, autonomous driving features…
And nobody is selling the basic no frills subcompact cars in the US anymore
From what I’ve heard the lack of buttons is actually a cost saving measure, if you put in an infotainment system anyway
That might be true as I haven’t looked into it in detail. Though even then, if the goal is to make cars more affordable, there’s lots of other features you can cut down on that has nothing to do with safety
Thank god EU is starting to get involved in the matter.
For now it is only that cars only get a 5 star safety rating when they include buttons for a few things form 2026.
I hope there will be laws that follow after.
Yeah, good buttons are ridiculously expensive
That’s a whole extra half cent per car.
You’re vastly underestimating prices of car parts, even for manufacturers, even bought in bulk.
yeah i worked at a vehicle manufacturer a while ago as they were expanding into a new market with a budget model, and getting rid of all the non-critical buttons was very high priority for cost. not only do you save on materials directly, you can remodel the entire driving area which means you can redesign the safety features. less shit in the dashboard means less debris that needs to be crash-tested.
I didn’t even think about the crash testing angle that makes a lot of sense
They just want their goons to be able to break their victims windows out easier
My siblings in sin, American cars and street scapes are dangerous for everyone.
I say YES!
GOLF CARTS FOR EVERYONE !!!
Cheap, light, small, no computer, natural airflow, what else?
This but without the sarcasm lol.
I’m 100% for light electric vehicles.
Golf cart is for the lol but it really checks all cases and for now all LEV are no more than fancy expensive golf carts, see Citroen Ami or la Bagnole.
Really hope to see more of those things riding the streets. Maybe in the future, cars will be banned from cities and let in the large open spaces where it belongs (where trains can’t go), and those LEV will complete the offer for inner city transportation in the form of short time rentals, like scooters and bikes do currently.
I wonder if the donald has a specially designed golf cart with a gas powered engine. I can’t believe that he daily drives an ev
I mean there are still just lots of gas powered golf carts around.
American safety standards have led to an insane game of cat an mouse wherein I need my car to be bigger to keep me safe. But my bigger car is more dangerous to you. So you need a bigger car to protect yourself from my dangerously large car. But now I need a bigger car to protect me from your giant car.
And 30 years later everyone is driving around a 60 thousand dollar crumple zone so tall it can’t see pedestrians over the hood and needs a 6 liter engine just to move.
Same for child seats. Planning on having 3 kids under 10? Better plan on a truck or van with a 3rd row, because somehow, you can’t fit seats 3 small children in the back seat of a family sedan or crossover.
I agree with you that this has happened, but it is far from the only reason that vehicles have increased in price. Now almost every vehicle comes with power windows, power locks, power mirrors, at least one if not multiple built in tv screens, wireless locks and keyless ignitions. Not to mention alot of manufacturers building in computer hardware/software to track user information and installing propietary parts/hardware/software designed to keep your local mechanic from doing repair work and forcing you to use dealership mechanics at 3-4 times the cost.
All of it is being done because it makes more money. Mark my words, if they repeal safety regulations, it will definitely reduce the safety of our vehicles, but it will have little to no effect impact on prices. I would wager my left nut that auto manufacturers are chomping at the bit to get this deregulation put through so they can reduce their cost of vehicles by increasing the danger of the consumer, but wont reduce the prices by a fraction of what they are “saving,” then will proceed to have record profits while using lobbyists to pay off our crooked politicians.
“On a long enough time line, everyone’s survival rate drops to zero.”
Yay capitalism, right?
I noticed the current admin has contempt for anything that benefits the common man, and is looking for financial excuses to remove any “subsidy” type of regulation that could be protecting people from dying for the crime of being poor and/or having weak genes
The really sad thing is your bigger car isn’t even really safer for you. It’s just cheaper for the manufacturers (since they can classify it as a truck which has less strict safety and efficiency regulations) and a danger to others.
Bitch, what?
Pay people more money.
Cars can never be too safe. What I want is a car with no computers or telemetry whatsoever. I want a car that is private with how I use it. Like what they were pre 2000s. Just a hunk of metal to go from point A to point B.
As long as you don’t get a touring bike, most motorcycles don’t track you.
cars like that already exist. you can’t afford them.
Besides kit cars or deliberately older designed cars like a Morgan Stanley, what modern cars have no driver tracking? The only one I’m aware of is the Slate EV.
I have a 2012 Nissan Leaf in Australia. It uses the 2G network for all telemetry. Australia just turned off the 3G network.
I think its pretty safe to say the telemetry does not work anymore.
Agreed, but a 13 year old Nissan leaf is rather old at this point (which is a good thing!), and is affordable. The person I was responding to implied that there are current production cars without tracking, but they are just unaffordable to most, which I found confusing, as I struggle to come up with a modern current production vehicle that doesn’t track the user regardless of it being basic affordable transportation or a Ferrari.
