• artyom@piefed.social
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    You’re telling me there’s zero valuable information in photos of feces? What about this?

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      You’re telling me there’s zero valuable information in photos of feces?

      Nope. I’m saying a private company and whatever training set they have, plus a cheap RGB camera and an AI model, is not going to give you any information that you can’t derive by simply looking at the feces yourself, much like the table you just linked. Though that table itself is an oversimplification that, being unable to take other parameters into account, also contains potentially misleading conclusions.

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        is not going to give you any information that you can’t derive by simply looking at the feces yourself

        Yes and you don’t have to hire a plumber to fix your sink if you’re a plumber.

        The point is:

        1. Professional analysis
        2. (more importantly) Automated logging (no pun intended), potentially for human medical review periodically, or at a later date.
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          Yes and you don’t have to hire a plumber to fix your sink if you’re a plumber.

          You are severely misunderstanding the point being made. Imagine you have a leaky pipe, you hire a professional plumber, they charge you $500 and say “yep, I can take a look and I conclude it’s a leaky pipe! My job here is done, see you next time. I can also give you an AI generated list of reasons pipes often get leaky”

          What I’m precisely telling you is that this company can’t provide the professional analysis you just commented.

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            this company can’t provide the professional analysis you just commented.

            And why not?

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              Because it’s an incredibly unreliable data point by itself, and requires significantly more than visual analysis to prevent several co-variables.

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                  You’re really willing to die on the hill of poop camera subscriptions, I’m not willing to waste time diving further into the subject. You’re ignorant of the topic, which is fine, but I won’t be the one explaining further.

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                    I’m not dying on anything, I’m just having a discussion. It’s what I come here to do. If you don’t want to discuss it, that’s fine, but the name calling is unnecessary.

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              Because there is more that goes into telling if someone is unhealthy than just looking at their stool. And the few signs that DEFINITELY point to health issues would be assessable by the average person just looking at their poop.

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                Sure, and there’s more that goes into telling if someone is unhealthy than just looking at their blood oxygen levels or heart rate or arrhythmia, but these are still valuable indicators that we already track and look for symptoms pointing to a potential issue.

                Plus health is not binary, it’s a spectrum, and looking at your feces can give be an indicator of where specifically your gut health lands on that spectrum.