It’s been a weird few days.

  • Bwaz@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Do commenters here actually think MAGA can be concerned with logic and rational argument?

  • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Yeah, those were also a problem. People also treated those as a problem. Obama hasn’t been in office for a decade though, so it would be really weird to be litigating that right now.

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      well you see this here whataboutism, relating a current topic to one of obama, is about liberals… not about deflecting criticism of Trump and Hegseth

      yep, this here is a useful and relevant topic from certainly a real fellow leftist

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        Not gonna bother to write this again.

        It does, because there’s a clear lesson to be learned from liberal flipflopping regarding the morality (or I suppose tolerability would be a better word) of whatever the evil thing du jour is: Just because liberals situationally agree with you, it doesn’t make them any less anti-worker. Leftists helping liberals beat a common enemy and then getting the boot after they stop being useful is a tale as old as time, so it’s important to remember what these people actually stand for. This is why so-called “unity” with liberals is such a ridiculous idea.

        And BTW I totes am a Russian propaganda bot here to destroy the currently thriving American democracy.

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          23 hours ago

          obama is off topic
          “liberals suck” is trite and just sportification
          and i doubt your sincerity much much more with your closing sentence

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      1 day ago

      People also treated those as a problem.

      Citations needed. And remember this meme is about liberals, not “people” in general.

      • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 day ago

        I was a liberal up until a few years ago. Everyone that I knew, including myself, that had an opinion on Obama’s drone strikes also thought they were the worst thing he did as president and condemned them. I think you just have selective memory and only remember the liberals that continued cheering him on.

        • Kumikommunism [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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          Everyone that I knew, including myself

          Okay, so what about people that actually matter? Got a quote with an liberals with any real power criticizing Obama? Or just anecdotes of a guy said a thing one time?

          Everyone…that had an opinion

          This doesn’t say anything. So everyone stayed quiet about it when Obama was doing it, and they just didn’t outwardly say “Oh boy! I sure love drone strikes!” Yeah, of course. That was never the contention.

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            1 day ago

            Lawmakers raise concerns about Obama’s drone policies | Reuters https://share.google/zAU9JHMagoXdO7ByL

            11 senators ask President Barack Obama for memos on targeted killing of U.S. citizens - POLITICO https://share.google/aP1G3obPrvmitPuYI

            Leading Senate Democrat Has Concerns With U.S. Drones : NPR https://share.google/NSZS6EhiZF3TcZTzG

            There are 3 different sources with a litany of Republican and Democrat members of Congress raising questions and concerns about Obama’s drone strikes.

            • Kumikommunism [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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              lol, with the Google share links and everything. I’m gonna guess you didn’t even read them. I know link spamming works against liberals who don’t know anything about the world around them, but it does not work on people who actually think about things. None of these support the point. But here we go:

              First article, just American nationalism and can be dismissed outright. Spends the whole time whining about American citizens being killed, not the use of drones. Nameless group of mixed Dems and Reps. Only critical quote is from a Republican who is mad that Obama didn’t do enough torture. Is your point in posting this that Obama should have tortured even more people? The statement that liberals did/do not criticize Obama as they do Trump still stands. Bad article.

              Second, same nationalism. Only criticism is of the killing of Americans. No criticism of the use of drones. You did not read the article and are link spamming about unrelated things. You should be ashamed. The statement that liberals did/do not criticize Obama as they do Trump still stands. Bad article.

              Third article. Finally, actual criticism of the use of drones. By one guy. He was the Senate Majority Whip and did not do anything within his power to enact any meaningful change, and there is nothing in the article about any other liberals joining him. The statement that liberals did/do not criticize Obama as they do Trump still stands. Bad article.

              I’m aware that liberals are nationalists who only care about very specific glorious American lives, but that isn’t the point we are discussing here. Some of us care when innocent people are killed regardless of what citizenship they have.

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    “I treat politics like a team sport, therefore left-leaning anericans must also do this”

    Seriously? This /c/ is fucking garbage.

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    2 days ago

    The Obama admin enabled a lot of the stuff that is happening today either through keeping programs running or actively establishing or growing the program, which is behaviour that is reprehensible but expected from lawmakers who answer to industry and love power.

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      13 hours ago

      I miss all previous presidents I have experienced prior to now and even Bush would be an improvement versus what we have literally now. They’re all directly at fault for the present situation in some way.

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    Nooooo it’s different those brown people we call terrorists and execute at will deserved it! /S

    That said, pretending there’s not much of a difference between a predator drone blowing up a wedding and treating schoolchildren as acceptable loses and a fascist deliberately killing people in the water is…

    Oh, no wait, those things are both evil.