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SatyrSack@quokk.au to Fediverse memes@feddit.ukEnglish · 12 hours ago

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SatyrSack@quokk.au to Fediverse memes@feddit.ukEnglish · 12 hours ago
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  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    the latest feature I’ve found is that when an admin deletes your account on their end it produces a ‘not found’ page, overall the software seems much better at filtering out dissent- ironic considering a primary complaint they have is ‘authoritarian developers’ influencing the software in some nebulous way

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      I’m quite sure it’s similar on Lemmy: if an admin purges a user, their profile won’t be accessible anymore

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        the way it works on lemmy there’s still some transparency, for example you can still see that the account existed, and has had posts removed by mod so you can figure out the context lemmy has it’s own issues too, like the fact that you can’t see the removed posts; iirc they’re planning to change that.

        in fact on piefed, if you wanted to review the modlog to see who has been getting account deleted, it doesn’t let you see beyond page 1

        the next button resets the search

        • Blaze (he/him)@piefed.zip
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          Was that account purged or banned? IIRC there’s a difference, and purged accounts would show ab empty profile without any posts

          Good point about the modlog page 2, @rimu@piefed.social or @wjs018@piefed.social can this be fixed quickly? If not I’ll make a Codeberg issue

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            I don’t have the patience to go through this whole thread, but as for preserving filters on modlog pagination, I just pushed a fix for it. Currently, it would just work on the main branch and hasn’t been backported to the 1.3 branch.

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            Every single one of their posts says ‘removed by mod’ with nothing in the comment moderation history. As far as I know if they were just banned with the posts manually removed you would still be able to reveal the comment moderation history.

            • Blaze (he/him)@piefed.zip
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              There are two different actions

              • ban from site
              • purge a user

              The documentation explains the difference

              Ban from site Completely bans the account, so it cannot log in or interact at all. There is also an option to remove all existing posts.

              Purge user Completely delete the user, including all posts and uploaded media. Use with caution.

              https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/04-moderation.html?highlight=purge#how-to-moderate

              I think the Lemmy user you are referring to above got banned, and their posts got removed as the sub-action, but they did not get purge.

              Your account got purged on the Piefed instance you linked above.

              Now obviously as you can guess it’s difficult to find an example of a purged account on a Lemmy instance as there’s no filter for that kind of actions in the modlog.

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                TIL, I’m not an admin so I never interacted with that functionality (nor did I rtfm, clearly) catgirl-sorry

                Your account got purged on the Piefed instance you linked above.

                already planning on making a sequel yptb post complaining about being purged deep-nestingdeep-nesting

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                  Feel free , at least maybe some other admins can confirm the difference between ban and purge on both platforms 😅

              • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/it/its/its/itself, she/her/her/hers/herself, fae/faer/faer/faers/faerself, love/love/loves/loves/loveself, des/pair, null/void, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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                The API has a filter for AdminPurgedPerson, but the result doesn’t include any info on the purged user.

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                  Indeed.

                  Having a closer look at the modlog for diva’s account on quokk.au, it shows “delete user” and not “ban user”, “delete user” being the Piefed version of Lemmy “purge user”

                  https://quokk.au/modlog?mod_action=&suspect_user_name=diva%40lemmy.ml&communities=&submit=Search

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          the next button resets the search

          For me, when I clicked “next” it instead just changed from local -> to all. This seems more like a bug rather than anything deliberate.

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            looks like a broken ui, I can manually input the page number to navigate it, but what a pain in the ass to use, wasn’t saying it was deliberate.

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              The modlog leaves a lot to be desired, and piefed mod actions don’t even appear on lemmy instances right now. Mind you, the way Lemmy handles instance bans is also not great either. I have noted this.

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