I agree with the sentiment but do you have any numbers to backup how its impact is better than regulating 10% of the companies? Cause that would actually help me understand the mechanics of that.
We do, it’s called a government, they pass laws to regulate people and corporations, and have enforcers to enforce that regulation. They just need to have some teeth and do their job.
Also you can cut that apologist shit out. It’s boring and it’s ineffective in getting people on your side. And you make your messaging and outreach effective cause guilt and shame are not effective tools to motivate people to change their behavior in the long run.
Also, are you advocating for all vulnerable individuals? Or just animals? What about all the cruelty happening in the global south and western imperialism and hegemony?
Or are you also an apologist for cruelty and violence on vulnerable non-western individuals?
Like two can play that dumb game of who is the virtuest of us all but it’s dumb and ineffective and does more to divide us who have more in common and we lose everything that we collectively want.
You are avoiding the central point. If we can agree that we both have a moral responsibility not to be avoidably cruel and violent to all vulnerable individuals, including cattle, pigs, and chickens, and also including human beings, I’ll address your points. But to me, they seem like a way you are distracting yourself from your basic moral obligations.
The central point I’m arguing about is whats the best way to reduce climate change and its effects and if controlling peoples consumption is the best course of action.
You’re the one that brought in things I wasn’t even talking about.
So please stop being passive aggressive.
And yes honey its imperative we reduce all cruelty we can around us I would extend that to also elected representatives too wouldn’t you agree, and holding them accountable. Does that answer your question?
Also, to what extent do you work to ensure you’re not being cruel to people around? Are you recycling? Are you reusing, are you repairing? Are you pushing for better worker rights in the factories that make your phones? Are you buying more expensive tech that don’t don’t exploit people? (How’s your FairPhone?). Are you pushing for the ending of the exploitation of the global south? Are you pushing for justice for all or just animals? Where is your moral obligation for that?
I answered yours now you answer mine. And please cut the passive aggressiveness if not please don’t bother answering me, cause if you can’t the best thing you can do to promote veganism is not talking.
I agree with the sentiment but do you have any numbers to backup how its impact is better than regulating 10% of the companies? Cause that would actually help me understand the mechanics of that.
We do, it’s called a government, they pass laws to regulate people and corporations, and have enforcers to enforce that regulation. They just need to have some teeth and do their job.
Also you can cut that apologist shit out. It’s boring and it’s ineffective in getting people on your side. And you make your messaging and outreach effective cause guilt and shame are not effective tools to motivate people to change their behavior in the long run.
Also, are you advocating for all vulnerable individuals? Or just animals? What about all the cruelty happening in the global south and western imperialism and hegemony? Or are you also an apologist for cruelty and violence on vulnerable non-western individuals? Like two can play that dumb game of who is the virtuest of us all but it’s dumb and ineffective and does more to divide us who have more in common and we lose everything that we collectively want.
You are avoiding the central point. If we can agree that we both have a moral responsibility not to be avoidably cruel and violent to all vulnerable individuals, including cattle, pigs, and chickens, and also including human beings, I’ll address your points. But to me, they seem like a way you are distracting yourself from your basic moral obligations.
The central point I’m arguing about is whats the best way to reduce climate change and its effects and if controlling peoples consumption is the best course of action. You’re the one that brought in things I wasn’t even talking about. So please stop being passive aggressive.
And yes honey its imperative we reduce all cruelty we can around us I would extend that to also elected representatives too wouldn’t you agree, and holding them accountable. Does that answer your question?
Also, to what extent do you work to ensure you’re not being cruel to people around? Are you recycling? Are you reusing, are you repairing? Are you pushing for better worker rights in the factories that make your phones? Are you buying more expensive tech that don’t don’t exploit people? (How’s your FairPhone?). Are you pushing for the ending of the exploitation of the global south? Are you pushing for justice for all or just animals? Where is your moral obligation for that?
I answered yours now you answer mine. And please cut the passive aggressiveness if not please don’t bother answering me, cause if you can’t the best thing you can do to promote veganism is not talking.