It’s an acquired taste. Do you think people “delude” themselves into liking coffee and spicy foods too? Most people just need to drink a couple and they will begin to enjoy it as their pallet adapts and becomes more sophisticated
Appreciating a wider variety and depth of flavor is indeed sophistication. There’s no virtue inherent to being close minded about food, while the inverse is not true - being open minded and willing to try and appreciate new things and gain new acquired tastes is a positive trait. You sound like a tourist who goes to a new country and complains about the food being terrible because you don’t have the acquired taste. It’s just close-minded and chauvinistic to assume you are right and have the perfect pallet already and everyone else is just wrong and stupid for liking things.
It’s fine to try new things and dislike it and not personally enjoy something. It’s not ok to proclaim your taste as the objective truth of reality and mock and shame people who do like it, or to refuse to try new things.
there’s no virtue to eating something you didn’t like. why is the first impression less valid than forcing yourself? sounds like some neurotypical bullshit invented to enforce norms.
Yea only neurotypical people are capable of eating a variety of food or experiencing new cultures. You are so right
If white tourists visit my country and refuse to even try our food I will see that as an insult to our culture and very small-minded and immature of them, and most others see it that way too. It has nothing to do with being “neurotypical” it has to do with a willingness to step outside your own cultural bounds and experience other people’s perspectives and cultures
Oh sorry, try it and then proclaim its objectively disgusting and everyone who likes it is lying - as you did in the top comment. That’s even worse. Goes from passive immaturity into full on chauvinism and childish behavior and disrespect.
Refusing to try other cultures is immaturity and petulance. Trying it once and then proclaiming it objectively disgusting and those who like it are liars is chauvinism and arrogance.
trying it once and then proclaiming it objectively disgusting
i have tried several varieties of alcoholic beverage and the overwhelming majority of them taste like shit. it’s not a one and done evaluation, but refusing to try additional beers after spitting out the first one is valid, and i’d say more valid than keeping on going until you forget not liking it.
It would be one thing if they were just making a hyperbolic statements as a joke, but they have doubled down in calling everyone else liars for having different tastes than them - and even murderers now, using their “dead friends” (presumably from alcoholism) to try and bludgeon their way to a pointless debate victory. Very redditor coded behavior
Taste is subjective, it’s the same with all sorts of things. It’s like coffee, some people hate the taste, some people will only drink it with milk/cream/sugar, and some people like the taste of coffee all on its own. What tastes delicious to one person can be disgusting to another, both are correct.
Edit: people can even have preferences within categories of drinks. Sticking with the coffee example, I don’t like darker roasts because they just taste burnt to me, but medium/light roasts have a better flavour. It’s similar with beer, personally I’m not a fan of domestic beers like Coors/bud/Molson but there are other beers that are pretty tasty, but again it’s to each their own
Having to explain the difference between subjective tastes and objectivity to children who haven’t yet developed theory of mind and think their immediate visceral reaction is fundamental truth is kind of hilarious. My five year old niece is more mature and understanding of other mindsets and tastes than the people in this thread
I know a German who had their first taste of beer at like 8 years old and immediately loved it. Probably has to do with ones familiar cuisine and maybe genetics a bit.
I actually like the taste and drink it to enjoy it. Mind you I usually only drink 1-2 beers a month when I go out for dinner as a treat.
I even try different types of beer and some types I like more or less than others.
beer being independently invented in multiple cultures by various peoples
Uh aktually, people have just been pretending to like beer for 13 millennia. Every beer ever made tastes exactly like that warm cup of Budweiser my dad gave me this one time when I was 10 years old.
probably some of that yeah, but i think toxic masculinity is a subset of fitting in with the cool kids kinda shit because women do it too and highschool girls generally aren’t trying to prove their manliness.
too many people who don’t like their first beer keep drinking until they like it because of shitty social norms that literally get people killed but ok
Yeah they are dead because people forced them to like the taste of beer? What a stupid and infantile attempt at an argument. Alcoholism is a disease with a lot more complex causes than the taste of a single type of alcohol being acquired. Alcoholics don’t get drunk because they like the taste, they do it because they have an addiction which fills a void, is used to cope or deal with despair.
Now tell me, do you think your friends who tragically passed from addiction and disease and despair would appreciate being used by you as a bludgeon to win unrelated pointless online arguments? Don’t you think you are being wildly disrespectful and out of line?
They died of “the taste of beer which they forced themselves to like”? Or maybe you are being really fucking disrespectful to them by misusing their memories this way.
Ehh, I think the acquired taste comments are true, but I used to think I liked double IPAs, but that was out of wanting to get drunk cheap and quick, nowadays I like a good stout or porter cause most of them taste like dark chocolate.
yeah it usually tastes bad. idk how people delude themselves into liking it.
It’s an acquired taste. Do you think people “delude” themselves into liking coffee and spicy foods too? Most people just need to drink a couple and they will begin to enjoy it as their pallet adapts and becomes more sophisticated
my parents are white midwesterners and i liked spicy food the first time, thanks.
fuck outta here lol. forcing yourself to like something you didn’t like the first time isn’t sophistication it’s conformity.
Appreciating a wider variety and depth of flavor is indeed sophistication. There’s no virtue inherent to being close minded about food, while the inverse is not true - being open minded and willing to try and appreciate new things and gain new acquired tastes is a positive trait. You sound like a tourist who goes to a new country and complains about the food being terrible because you don’t have the acquired taste. It’s just close-minded and chauvinistic to assume you are right and have the perfect pallet already and everyone else is just wrong and stupid for liking things.
It’s fine to try new things and dislike it and not personally enjoy something. It’s not ok to proclaim your taste as the objective truth of reality and mock and shame people who do like it, or to refuse to try new things.
there’s no virtue to eating something you didn’t like. why is the first impression less valid than forcing yourself? sounds like some neurotypical bullshit invented to enforce norms.
Yea only neurotypical people are capable of eating a variety of food or experiencing new cultures. You are so right
If white tourists visit my country and refuse to even try our food I will see that as an insult to our culture and very small-minded and immature of them, and most others see it that way too. It has nothing to do with being “neurotypical” it has to do with a willingness to step outside your own cultural bounds and experience other people’s perspectives and cultures
stopping you there, that’s not what i’ve been talking about at all.
Oh sorry, try it and then proclaim its objectively disgusting and everyone who likes it is lying - as you did in the top comment. That’s even worse. Goes from passive immaturity into full on chauvinism and childish behavior and disrespect.
Refusing to try other cultures is immaturity and petulance. Trying it once and then proclaiming it objectively disgusting and those who like it are liars is chauvinism and arrogance.
i have tried several varieties of alcoholic beverage and the overwhelming majority of them taste like shit. it’s not a one and done evaluation, but refusing to try additional beers after spitting out the first one is valid, and i’d say more valid than keeping on going until you forget not liking it.
the “everyone with different subjective tastes than me is delusional” tone of this comment is incredibly reddit
It would be one thing if they were just making a hyperbolic statements as a joke, but they have doubled down in calling everyone else liars for having different tastes than them - and even murderers now, using their “dead friends” (presumably from alcoholism) to try and bludgeon their way to a pointless debate victory. Very redditor coded behavior
Taste is subjective, it’s the same with all sorts of things. It’s like coffee, some people hate the taste, some people will only drink it with milk/cream/sugar, and some people like the taste of coffee all on its own. What tastes delicious to one person can be disgusting to another, both are correct.
Edit: people can even have preferences within categories of drinks. Sticking with the coffee example, I don’t like darker roasts because they just taste burnt to me, but medium/light roasts have a better flavour. It’s similar with beer, personally I’m not a fan of domestic beers like Coors/bud/Molson but there are other beers that are pretty tasty, but again it’s to each their own
Having to explain the difference between subjective tastes and objectivity to children who haven’t yet developed theory of mind and think their immediate visceral reaction is fundamental truth is kind of hilarious. My five year old niece is more mature and understanding of other mindsets and tastes than the people in this thread
Never thought I’d see
over something as simple as “different people like different things”
I know a German who had their first taste of beer at like 8 years old and immediately loved it. Probably has to do with ones familiar cuisine and maybe genetics a bit.
What flavours you’re introduced to as a child makes a huge impact on your palate as an adult
I actually like the taste and drink it to enjoy it. Mind you I usually only drink 1-2 beers a month when I go out for dinner as a treat. I even try different types of beer and some types I like more or less than others.
One of my most unpopular takes is that toxic masculinity is at the root of people pretending to like/deluding themselves into liking beer
is it really that hard for you to imagine that other people like things you don’t like? breathtakingly solipsistic
Uh aktually, people have just been pretending to like beer for 13 millennia. Every beer ever made tastes exactly like that warm cup of Budweiser my dad gave me this one time when I was 10 years old.
Actual baby brains in here without object permanence or theory of mind lmao
Me after synthesizing every single comment I have read in this thread with my big brain: People need to drink beer to develop theory of mind.
I don’t like most beers, but taste is purely subjective.
Also Guinness slaps
See, I like a lot of beers but Guinness isn’t one of them. Taste really is subjective, lol.
probably some of that yeah, but i think toxic masculinity is a subset of fitting in with the cool kids kinda shit because women do it too and highschool girls generally aren’t trying to prove their manliness.
Beer is good, this is so silly and childish of an outlook. People having personal tastes isn’t a misogynist conspiracy it’s a fact of life
too many people who don’t like their first beer keep drinking until they like it because of shitty social norms that literally get people killed but ok
You are so childish and ignorant
tell that to my dead friends
Yeah they are dead because people forced them to like the taste of beer? What a stupid and infantile attempt at an argument. Alcoholism is a disease with a lot more complex causes than the taste of a single type of alcohol being acquired. Alcoholics don’t get drunk because they like the taste, they do it because they have an addiction which fills a void, is used to cope or deal with despair.
Now tell me, do you think your friends who tragically passed from addiction and disease and despair would appreciate being used by you as a bludgeon to win unrelated pointless online arguments? Don’t you think you are being wildly disrespectful and out of line?
They died of “the taste of beer which they forced themselves to like”? Or maybe you are being really fucking disrespectful to them by misusing their memories this way.
Different beers have different tastes. Sour beer tastes like vomit to me. Dark beer tastes much nicer.
Ehh, I think the acquired taste comments are true, but I used to think I liked double IPAs, but that was out of wanting to get drunk cheap and quick, nowadays I like a good stout or porter cause most of them taste like dark chocolate.
Taste can also shift over one’s lifetime. As a child I hated onions, but as an adult I can’t get enough of them