So… we are in bad times… and bad times make hard men… and “we need MEN”… and grindr’s going to make men hard…
Just trying to follow the logic…
Did he just call himself soft?
So is Mr Fox admitting to being a soft man for being around to cause these problems?
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IS THAT A RAINBOW IN THEIR PFP? DID GRINDR GO WOKE???
Equal opportunity sodomy imposed.
This is patently inaccurate. If anything, bad times make soft men, in many of us desperate crave someone to protect us, with whom we feel safe to be soft with. And then, of course, soft men makes hard men
Hard men make soft men. Soft men become hard men… What were we talking about?
Reminder that Laurence Fox is a classist, racist, Covid-denying, bigoted, moron that even the majority of the British right wing ignore as too far gone.
Is there an echo in here??
good times make hard men. soft men make me hard.
This comment made me a hard man.
Ignoring for a moment that apparently women don’t exist in that world, even the premise doesn’t hold: Bad times don’t make hard people, bad times make sick, malnourished, badly educated and/or desperate people, none of which is conductive to making the proposed following of the good times.
If any of that were true, the good times in the so called first world should’ve made their peoples so soft compared to the hard peoples that should’ve been created literally everywhere else that the last 300 years of war or so should’ve ended very differently.
It’s a racist propaganda trope that harkens back to ancient Rome where senators decried the “soft” Roman lifestyle compared to the “hard” germanic tribes and has gathered connotations of blood-and-earth (“Blut und Boden”, no idea how thats translated) and other unsavory shit in the meantime.
I like to call it the “Fremen Mirage” after the awesome blog collection of a historian I very much like: https://acoup.blog/2020/01/17/collections-the-fremen-mirage-part-i-war-at-the-dawn-of-civilization/
Props to grindr for judo-ing this pile of worms to a place the original poster presumably wouldn’t have liked very much
I love that blog. It’s written in such a thorough yet accessible manner that I’ve actually sent that particular post to a friend with whom I was arguing about this with
The whole cyclical thing is bullshit and has been for thousands of years. Good times make for a surplus in food and other products, which can feed a warrior caste to pillage more prosperity from the unfortunate.
Dr. Devereaux explores this myth in his series dubbed “The Fremen Mirage” (named such after the fictional people of Dune, both to provide an example of its “distilled” portrayal in fiction and to avoid linking it to any specific real culture he’d step on the toes of).
And we do need men. Men whose identity isn’t defined by supremacy or dominance, but by the courage to step up, the strength to help carry the weaker members of society, the honour to protect the vulnerable and the confidence to not feel emasculated by conceding error or showing tenderness or loving other men.
Most of that is applicable to humans in general, regardless of gender, biology, sexuality, ethnicity or whether they like soy-based foods, but if we’re gonna lean into masculine stereotypes, let it be the healthy, beneficial ones.
And if we’re gonna lean into men, have fun!
Yeah. Does seem rather like weak men of all types (perhaps most especially the try-hard covering up their errors, tenderness and love) contribute to bad times. Does seem like the exit route out of the cyclical thing (the delusion thereof) is to keep on generating good times that create strong good men, not hard strong men… because history shows us hard strong men at the fore of worst times. ~ (Or at least that type of weak men who try to appear as hard strong men to compensate for, rather than admit and correct their errors; to deny their tenderness; to pervert their love (e.g. for domination rather than each other))
And better nettle tea, than soy, if we’re looking after men’s health like hormonal influences on how beneficially they purport themselves.
… Just realised… Also, lets all drop all the times stuff like its the same for everyone. Always more variety of experience no matter the times. Always a variety of men of whatever reductive judgement anyone may want to put on each. We got interesting times, now and ahead. Buckle up, everybody. Much to mend. We’ll need the rich variety of aptitudes in each, not the wrong criteria of pass/fail individuals on the colour of their skin, or their preference of this or that.
Ever hard work picking out the insidious little psyops the foxes plop into our brains. As we keep doing that hard work, from these bad times, we’ll become hard men, and then fox can get his narcissistic fuel, like he’s the father of salvation, instead of the rotter making things bad. It’s same old “conservative” con, they keep your head under water, drowning you, and when you finally manage to rise up for air, they take credit for making you strong enough to.
TIL that Lemmy has <hr/>
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I never actually tried HTML tags (and I’d be surprised if they work, given the vulnerabilities that would introduce), but Lemmy (or at least most clients) supports Markdown, where
achieves the same effect.Actually, let me try the HTML tag.
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Doesn’t look like it on my end. Shame.
While we’re at it, it does support HTML entities like ü ∈ or ⥱ (
ü∈or&respectively).You can also use
for larger paragraphs breaks like the one above:text textOh,… of course. I kinda forgot that there is a vanilla markdown language.
Got used too much to html/xml
Got used too much to html/xml
Condolences, hope you recover soon
Unfortunately the saying refers to soft men like Trump et. al., not femboys.
God I wish we had a femboy president and cabinet… I’m not even attracted to them. I just know they’d be infinitely better than the fucking fascist cheeto et. al…
no its about femboys. read history
This is still not the criteria to decide who decides…
… Nor correct reasoning. Femboys can be fascist too. These are not mutually exclusive sets. So no, you are in error asserting you know they’d be better, if you’re saying they’d not be fascist. Power corrupts, and corrupted feboys may be a devil we don’t know. I’d rather not have a devil making machine. No matter which flavour of devils. I do not want a devil making machine. Putting women in power, did not mend it. Putting “black faces in high places”, did not mend it. But putting femboys in the power structure shaped for fascism, is going to mend it? May be yet missing the lesson to learn here. ~ Sorry Martin Luther King. I’m tryin.
I’m absolutely positive there are fewer femboy fascists than Republican fascists.
My comment is not about the most ideal government, nor about power structures, but a direct comparison of two specific things.
fewer
So your “know” is just a gamble.
A gamble with better odds than the 100% chance we currently have… How fucking dense can you be?
It shouldn’t be fucking difficult to understand that a gamble is better than a guarantee.
You’d be surprised by the amount of nazi femboys there are…
Eh… I’m aware how insufferably ‘bottom’ many of them are. To want to be a nazi whilst being a type of person they would likely dislike is … pretty strong bottom energy.
Those two aren’t men, they’re an enby and a trans woman.
Yet they still make me hard. Curious
Well that means you’re bi
everybody’s bi.
t’aint nothin wrong with it though
Most of what makes these “bad times”, involves the existence of massive dickheads like Laurence Fox, who think that strength is the same as bigotry.
Okay, who else tried to wipe or blow away the random line?
I was once told that blowing is gay.
… The guy was serious. Not using a euphemism.
If he saw it, he’d leave it be, not wanting to be gay.
XD
