I know a lot of carbrains, a and I have heard this precisely zero times in my life.
They do say it’s expensive, though. And then the “I have children, I therefore couldn’t survive without a car”, while in reality children are in reality an obvious argument against using a car.
But yeah, the argument about expenses is funny.
The total cost of owning and using a car is around 300 € per month. (And my parents say they are paying aboout 400 €)
A public transportation ticket costs some 85 € per.month.
It’s amazing that people are willing to pay 300 € to save 85 €. And I woild say that’s an argument I hear from at least 30 % of my city’s adult population.
(But “dangerous” is an argument I have never heard against public transportation, in any case)
It is absolutely true. I grew up in a large urban city but now I live and work in rural, very conservative area. People who have never been within 20 miles of an urban area think it is a garentee that if you step on a train or bus, there will be someone running end to end giving everyone the “London Special” 🔪. Some people seemed genuinely surprised to hear that I’ve never been robbed or had my car stolen. It is fucking wild what happens when someone watches nothing but Fox News all day
It is easily the most common answer I hear to the “why don’t you use transit in this city that is very well served by a robust network and also REALLY sucks to drive in?” question.
I’ve heard it before including from people on Lemmy. However, I usually hear it more where people are concerned with their personal safety around other people and not with their safety cage.
This is the first time I hear such an assumption. Are you sure it really exists or is common?
Carbrains have always been convinced that public transit is dangerous because it puts them in the proximity of the poors
Weird.
I know a lot of carbrains, a and I have heard this precisely zero times in my life.
They do say it’s expensive, though. And then the “I have children, I therefore couldn’t survive without a car”, while in reality children are in reality an obvious argument against using a car.
But yeah, the argument about expenses is funny.
The total cost of owning and using a car is around 300 € per month. (And my parents say they are paying aboout 400 €)
A public transportation ticket costs some 85 € per.month.
It’s amazing that people are willing to pay 300 € to save 85 €. And I woild say that’s an argument I hear from at least 30 % of my city’s adult population.
(But “dangerous” is an argument I have never heard against public transportation, in any case)
It’s likely you haven’t heard of it because it’s a US thing mostly
It is absolutely true. I grew up in a large urban city but now I live and work in rural, very conservative area. People who have never been within 20 miles of an urban area think it is a garentee that if you step on a train or bus, there will be someone running end to end giving everyone the “London Special” 🔪. Some people seemed genuinely surprised to hear that I’ve never been robbed or had my car stolen. It is fucking wild what happens when someone watches nothing but Fox News all day
i’v been mulling over the idea of just how you even begin to deprogram half a country off of such engrained propaganda.
it’s not even just fox news either, murdoch owns WSJ and like half the “independent” radios across the country
It is easily the most common answer I hear to the “why don’t you use transit in this city that is very well served by a robust network and also REALLY sucks to drive in?” question.
I’ve heard it before including from people on Lemmy. However, I usually hear it more where people are concerned with their personal safety around other people and not with their safety cage.