• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I agree with your conclusions but it’s an oversimplification to say

    Israel is a state
    Judaism is a religion

    Those things are very tied together, partially because no, Judaism is not just a religion. It’s a culture and ethnicity as well. And given the history of how/why Israel exists, it’s in the unique position of not just being any ole state.

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            1 year ago

            I see what you’re trying to do but that’s very much a false equivalence. It’s more akin to the US’ role in the creation of the Taliban (among many, many other orgs)

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              How is it a false equivalence? The Constitution literally said that Black people were 60% of a person. The South chose officials who enforced and fought tooth and nail to subjugate Blacks (Bleeding Kansas, anyone?).

              The South had to go. (Or do you consider them a poor, marginalized population for what the Union did to them?)

              EDIT: Also note that the CSA literally seceded from the Union over the issue.

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                Enlighten me, what similar situations are happening with Israel and Palestine that makes this comparison relevant? The politics and history around slavery in the US are completely different than this

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                    Did the South have left-wing, secular parties with popular support that wanted abolition? Did the north actively suppress these parties while funding a group of religious extremists to do their dirty work and then turn on them when the arrangement wasn’t convenient to them? Was the north violently oppressing the south for decades before the civil war? Did the north interfere in the elections that lead to the religious extremists gaining control of the south? Are the results of that election hotly contested to this day?