Some people wants every body human rights to be respected, and dennounce crimes against humanity that Israel and Hamas commits, one being an alleged country and the other a terrorist organization.
The right for self determination of Palestinians (and to live) is not being respected by Israel, so, with confidence I will say Free Palestine!
“Antisemitism” as a term refers to hatred of Jews. That’s the common definition. You don’t get to hide behind your neckbeard “Well ackshyully”. Try again.
I think your tone is why you are getting down voted. You actually come off as the neckbeard with permanent Cheeto cheese stains on their fingers and half chewed food flying out of your mouth as you type.
The term antisemitism was created in Germany as a scientific sounding name for Judenhass(Jew Hatred).
Even though the root of Semite means people of the Semitic language group the usage of antisemitism has always been towards the Jews alone.
I’m a linguist by education. I’m used to people being startlingly wrong about language (pop coverage of the field is utterly abysmal) and when someone tries to play the “I cAn’T bE aNtIsEmItIc, I’m A sEmItE” card (to say nothing of right-wing nationalists who think their language is Perfect and the Ancestor of All Languages), I get hot and bothered.
Anti-Zionism
Opposition to Jewish ethnonationalism
Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism. Although anti-Zionism is a heterogeneous phenomenon, all its proponents agree that the creation of the modern State of Israel, and the movement to create a sovereign Jewish state in the region of Palestine – the biblical Land of Israel – was flawed or unjust in some way.
In the West, maybe. For Hamas specifically…am I seriously the only one who read their charter? They cite the most notorious antisemitic hoax of all time with a straight face and their stated goal is to wipe out Israel and kill Jews.
Have you ever lived under a terrorist regime? When did Palestinians last vote and what is/where the demographics of the population vs eligible voters? What kind of democracy do they have, one like North Korea or maybe they have a government like the US? What’s the name of the president of Palestine? How many generals do they have? Do children deserve to be murdered because of how their parents voted?
Funnily enough, this has happened in the West in the last century. It was called “Vichy France” and those who rolled, les collaborateurs. There’s a reason “quisling” is a word.
Thanks! Not that surprised though considering what happened after 9/11. None of it is acceptable. That many civilians dead gets rid of your “fighting to protect people” stance.
When you opt for war, you’re the one putting your and your children’s lives on the chopping block. You better be damn sure it’s a risk you’re willing to run.
Same goes for Israel then, no? Why are they crying about a terrorist attack then, thems the breaks of war, right? I mean you can’t occupy a country and expect no retaliation so why is anyone even talking about this? Just a couple of nations going at it.
In the broad, sure. But as everybody else seems to concern themselves with talking about Israel’s crimes, while painting the Palestinians as some helpless, repressed dove in a cage, I will leave them to the former and disprove the latter.
Anti Zionism ≠ Anti Semitism.
Some people wants every body human rights to be respected, and dennounce crimes against humanity that Israel and Hamas commits, one being an alleged country and the other a terrorist organization.
The right for self determination of Palestinians (and to live) is not being respected by Israel, so, with confidence I will say Free Palestine!
What’s funny is that Palestinians are literally Semitic
Dumbass comment. Thanks!
Not this bullshit.
“Antisemitism” as a term refers to hatred of Jews. That’s the common definition. You don’t get to hide behind your neckbeard “Well ackshyully”. Try again.
ay man shut up lmfao
I think your tone is why you are getting down voted. You actually come off as the neckbeard with permanent Cheeto cheese stains on their fingers and half chewed food flying out of your mouth as you type.
The term antisemitism was created in Germany as a scientific sounding name for Judenhass(Jew Hatred).
Even though the root of Semite means people of the Semitic language group the usage of antisemitism has always been towards the Jews alone.
I’m a linguist by education. I’m used to people being startlingly wrong about language (pop coverage of the field is utterly abysmal) and when someone tries to play the “I cAn’T bE aNtIsEmItIc, I’m A sEmItE” card (to say nothing of right-wing nationalists who think their language is Perfect and the Ancestor of All Languages), I get hot and bothered.
Zionism became a thing when antisemitism was really bad.
Israel became a thing when antisemitism went over itself and even casual antisemites looked in horror at what Nazis had done.
The Palestinian problem today is nested within centuries of the problem of antisemitism, coiling around and biting itself in the tail.
So tell me what „Anti-Zionism“ means exactly in your opinion.
- wikipedia
In the West, maybe. For Hamas specifically…am I seriously the only one who read their charter? They cite the most notorious antisemitic hoax of all time with a straight face and their stated goal is to wipe out Israel and kill Jews.
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Very few people are arguing for Hamas. Mostly for the civilians of Palestine. And even Hamas claims it’s changed somewhat since the original charter.
They launched an entire military operation with the express purpose of murdering civilians at a music festival.
And you’re saying that’s the changed version?
I’ll believe that when I see it.
apparently you won’t tho cause…
…they have killed more civilians this past week than in either of the Intifadas.
Bro what is you talking about we can see through the astro babe.
You suggested people are supporting Hamas not the Palestinian civilians, you literally said
It’s literally all over this thread and many others. People support Palestinians. You’re seeing it and not believing it.
Now this is your response? Fuck off Israel’s government are a bunch of pussies fuck yo shit
They replied to a different comment, lol
I’m talking about
I know people support Palestine.
“Yeah but this terrorist organization…” Really dog?
With majority support in Gaza.
Have you ever lived under a terrorist regime? When did Palestinians last vote and what is/where the demographics of the population vs eligible voters? What kind of democracy do they have, one like North Korea or maybe they have a government like the US? What’s the name of the president of Palestine? How many generals do they have? Do children deserve to be murdered because of how their parents voted?
Funnily enough, this has happened in the West in the last century. It was called “Vichy France” and those who rolled, les collaborateurs. There’s a reason “quisling” is a word.
My history is a bit fuzzy because I don’t remember allied forces turning all of France into rubble in response
Remember harder.
Thanks! Not that surprised though considering what happened after 9/11. None of it is acceptable. That many civilians dead gets rid of your “fighting to protect people” stance.
When you opt for war, you’re the one putting your and your children’s lives on the chopping block. You better be damn sure it’s a risk you’re willing to run.
Same goes for Israel then, no? Why are they crying about a terrorist attack then, thems the breaks of war, right? I mean you can’t occupy a country and expect no retaliation so why is anyone even talking about this? Just a couple of nations going at it.
In the broad, sure. But as everybody else seems to concern themselves with talking about Israel’s crimes, while painting the Palestinians as some helpless, repressed dove in a cage, I will leave them to the former and disprove the latter.
Because Israel is pretending they have some sort of moral high ground while using the exact same rhetoric as Hamas.