Also if you must use it, use open source models and either run them yourself on your own GPU, or use something like AI horde where others use their own GPUs.
Don’t recommend that community, it’s full of trolls who outright harass people members on our instance, many people have already been harassed by them (me included) including literal death threats. People can have their own opinions, and for the record I agree with them that corporate AI companies suck and are doing more harm than good, even for the AI space and AI development in general, but brigading spaces, harassing moderators, or even impersonating mods and users who use AI is not the way to fight the problems related to corporate AI or misuse of AI in general.
I have and will do so for any more who come up. Thankfully outside of some vote manipulation accounts (which I banned quickly from all my communities) there haven’t been any attacks from the Fuck_AI crowd as of late.
glad to hear it. don’t know why i was made a mod there but i take the reports i get seriously and make sure to foster an environment where the community is constructive rather than destructive. @Five@slrpnk.net i’m wanting to have a short conversation after i’ve gotten some sleep since i know you’re a mod there, too. i have some thoughts on this that are better hosted on slrpnk.net than on lemmy.dbzer0.net
edit: this conversation will continue here. @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com , sorry this got too far cluttering up your comm. this was not my intent. i merely saw someone mentioning something that’s been really bothering me and an opportunity to potentially make things better. trolls are never helpful and trolling is not a methodology for getting anything done
I’ll shed some light on the nature of the harassment, they were making fun of one of the mods for being a recovering alcoholic (they literally encouraged that mod to get drunk and kill themselves), they impersonated the mod and acted stupid. They made a lot of spam accounts and posted porn in threads discussing the mod. Many people also harassed me as well in my DMs (porn, death threats, the works). Absolutely inexcusable.
But there is no ethical use of AI.
Let’s be very clear here. dbzer0 is anti intellectual property. We do not support IP laws or arguments here, they and their apologists are seen as liberal garbage here. So any of the arguments about plagarism or “sTEAliNg aRT” are not only invalid arguments here, they are not respected by this community, and people here will laugh at you (and probably ban you) for spouting such liberal nonsense in a leftist space. It is baffling how many people come to dbzer0 with these arguments when it’s written on our front page that we are leftist-anarchist and fundamentally against intellectual proptery.
Arguments about power and water usage are valid concerns if we’re talking about openAI or datacenters. However on dbzer0 people almost exclusively use their own hardware (their own GPUs) or they use computing power from volunteers. That’s to say they use consumer hardware. So the environment arguments don’t work here. Unless you also believe gaming is hurting the environment, and that we should all conserve our computing power.
Me, @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com and many others have had these arguments often, and no one has presented any other compelling reasons beyond:
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Also if you must use it, use open source models and either run them yourself on your own GPU, or use something like AI horde where others use their own GPUs.
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Don’t recommend that community, it’s full of trolls who outright harass people members on our instance, many people have already been harassed by them (me included) including literal death threats. People can have their own opinions, and for the record I agree with them that corporate AI companies suck and are doing more harm than good, even for the AI space and AI development in general, but brigading spaces, harassing moderators, or even impersonating mods and users who use AI is not the way to fight the problems related to corporate AI or misuse of AI in general.
please report those trolls. i’ve been banning them when those reports come into my mod feed. non-participation is acceptable. brigading is not.
I have and will do so for any more who come up. Thankfully outside of some vote manipulation accounts (which I banned quickly from all my communities) there haven’t been any attacks from the Fuck_AI crowd as of late.
glad to hear it. don’t know why i was made a mod there but i take the reports i get seriously and make sure to foster an environment where the community is constructive rather than destructive. @Five@slrpnk.net i’m wanting to have a short conversation after i’ve gotten some sleep since i know you’re a mod there, too. i have some thoughts on this that are better hosted on slrpnk.net than on lemmy.dbzer0.net
edit: this conversation will continue here. @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com , sorry this got too far cluttering up your comm. this was not my intent. i merely saw someone mentioning something that’s been really bothering me and an opportunity to potentially make things better. trolls are never helpful and trolling is not a methodology for getting anything done
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I’ll shed some light on the nature of the harassment, they were making fun of one of the mods for being a recovering alcoholic (they literally encouraged that mod to get drunk and kill themselves), they impersonated the mod and acted stupid. They made a lot of spam accounts and posted porn in threads discussing the mod. Many people also harassed me as well in my DMs (porn, death threats, the works). Absolutely inexcusable.
Let’s be very clear here. dbzer0 is anti intellectual property. We do not support IP laws or arguments here, they and their apologists are seen as liberal garbage here. So any of the arguments about plagarism or “sTEAliNg aRT” are not only invalid arguments here, they are not respected by this community, and people here will laugh at you (and probably ban you) for spouting such liberal nonsense in a leftist space. It is baffling how many people come to dbzer0 with these arguments when it’s written on our front page that we are leftist-anarchist and fundamentally against intellectual proptery.
Arguments about power and water usage are valid concerns if we’re talking about openAI or datacenters. However on dbzer0 people almost exclusively use their own hardware (their own GPUs) or they use computing power from volunteers. That’s to say they use consumer hardware. So the environment arguments don’t work here. Unless you also believe gaming is hurting the environment, and that we should all conserve our computing power.
Me, @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com and many others have had these arguments often, and no one has presented any other compelling reasons beyond:
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