Palestinian health authorities in Hamas-controlled Gaza said Israel struck a convoy of ambulances on Friday that was to leave al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City and head to the south of the enclave to evacuate injured people.

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    1 year ago

    Yep, so instead let’s consider everyone to be a militant! That excuses genocide, problem solved!

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      When people are literally shooting at you persistently, what do you suggest they do? When nobody recognizes their war crimes and there is no where to go what do you suggest they do? When nobody recognizes that you are getting shot at despite plenty of proof and evidence, what do you do?

      You say your piece and do your best to follow the laws of war despite the opposing side not doing the same.

      You cannot honestly tell me that you trust Hamas more than Israel to follow the laws of war.

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        I dont. But I do expect an obviously more powerful army with total control of the situation to set an example and show restraint (and wisdom). If they reduce themsleves to their enemy, then they nees to stop with the moral high ground nonsense.

        Its not so easy to hold your position when it’s your family that gets murderes becauae there might be one bad guy among them.

        It was gross when Hamas did it, and its still gross when israel does it.

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          Israel is not aiming to maintain the situation because that was what they were doing before. Their goal is to win the war and completely eradicate Hamas as a power structure. Everything is to further that end within international law.

          Hamas is doing their best to embed themselves within restricted targets and Israel does not always have the ability to tell when a building or vehicle they are seen going into is a restricted target. That does not make it illegal. It is also a war crime by Hamas. It places the blame purely on the side with knowledge of the ground. I’m yet to see Hamas get blamed for this in this conflict yet it absolutely is on them.

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            So this is Israels Vietnam eh?

            Tell me, when you go into perform brain surgery to extract a persons cancer, why are you using a 10 pound hammer to perform the operation? It’s called a scalpel you clod.

            Also tell me, if this is so precise then why are 40% of the fatalities children? That’s 10% shy of the total percentage of the population they represent.

            Minimal effort is being taken, if any, to protect the people you claim brave Israel cares about. What a joke!

            30,000 active Hamas fighters according to Israel and you’ve already killed 10,000 people. 4,000 of them children. You are an unapologetic accomplice to a massacre that is still ongoing. You remember that, no matter how “moral” you tell yourself it is.

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              I haven’t killed anyone in this conflict. I’m sorry you have affiliated yourself with Hamas but I have not done the same for Israel. I would also not conduct this war the same way but I also won’t stoop to calling it war crimes. It’s just war.

              I’ll ask again. Don’t ignore it. What do you consider moral in war?

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        Well, Hamas didn’t murder 4000 children. So I think what you fail to recognize is that none of us trust either of these murders, but we will trust the 4000 child killer less.

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          Please provide a source where Israel started their intent was to murder children.

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              They are at war. This is not a limited fight. They are conducting a total war to eliminate the Hamas power structure. Hamas showed them that any inch they give them will be payed in blood. The lesson they learned last conflict is that conducting a limited war literally makes no difference in the information environment. They will lose anyways there so they are conducting a legal war to achieve actual change.

              I think you will find that absolutely none of these actually of war crimes will be stuck to anyone because the evidence is scarce at best, just like last time. The records match the decisions which match the intelligence. As long as no actual war crimes are committed, Israel could care less what you think of them this time.

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                You are invading, hence, you are responsible for your own actions. That’s life.

                Nobody but you dropped the bomb, pulled the trigger, made the decision. Israel has agency. They’ve used it to commit murder and they will come to be known as murders for it.

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                  You already considered them this before the start of this conflict even in a limited war. They honestly don’t care about what you think. They want to change the calculus through the dismantling of Hamas so this can never happen again.

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                    This slaughter guarantees it will never end. You are beyond reason and I hope you live to see the fruits of vengeance the seeds you plant now will come to bear. I don’t wish you or anyone harm, but when it inevitably comes, don’t you dare for a second excuse yourself from the knowledge that you helped further this cycle of misery upon the world. “let he who seeks revenge dig 2 graves”