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      Bro. You almost gave me a heart attack for a second there, making me think I somehow posted something VERY different.

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        Plot twist: Dude is actually talking to the top of his phone, not the bottom.

        Nerds might catch this joke a little quicker…

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            No no, I mean he’s talking into the top of the phone, perhaps where the loudspeaker microphone might happen to be, totally depends on the model of phone/tablet though.

            They got multiple microphones these days, not just the one at the bottom of the phone. Put it in loudspeaker mode and it uses a different microphone away from the bottom speaker.

            Any which way, if you turn the phone upside down in portrait orientation, the screen won’t flip 180⁰, because ‘smart’ phones are too stupid to do that.

            Edit: My comment is in jest, but at the same time I have to talk into the left side of my tablet, because thats where the main microphone is.

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      I didn’t realize I had a mental illness. I just booked an appointment with a psychiatrist. Thank you kind stranger. /s

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    Imagine meeting the love of your life and then finding out they talk on the phone like this

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    When did this become a thing anyway? When out and about, I see everyone talking on the phone like this.

    I don’t want to hear your conversation.

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      The theory I’ve heard is that people on reality TV shows would do this so the mics could pick up their conversations better. So naturally, brainless idiots without an original thought in their dense godforsaken skulls people who watch those shows started doing it in real life too because they saw popular people doing it on TV.

      It’s just a theory, but it seems plausible because it’s clearly not how phones were designed to function on speakerphone or otherwise.

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        That’s where the trend is putting books spine first into a bookshelf came from too.

        The tv producers don’t want to spend days asking for permission to use book spine graphics in the shot, not spend time blurring the film, so they flip the books around to hide all the spine art. It’s on HGTV a ton.

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          That one just makes me sad and angry. I try not to judge people, but I would judge the shit out of someone for doing that IRL.

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            If you find visual clutter distracting or upsetting, it’s a pretty useful trick to still be able to own a bunch of books. Alphabetize your books, and you can still find them. And most people I know can find their favorites even without that.

            It’s kind of like getting mad at people who organize their books by color. If you’re a visual person, there’s a half decent chance you remember the color of the book rather than remembering the author’s name.

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          Is that actually a thing people do? I am so far out of the loop I haven’t heard of it either on tv or irl

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        I’ve heard that gangsters holding their guns horizontally comes from a movie. I don’t remember which one. Life imitates art.

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          Actually the holding the gun sideways was a practicality thing. When unloading a magazine rapidly you have limited control of the weapon’s recoil. When holding a gun upright the recoil moves it upwards, holding it sideways moves it sideways.

          Now imagine you’re a gangter, ‘bout to come up on some punk steppin’ on your turf. You an da boyz gatted up ready to throw down. Get in the low-rider with your illegal Tek-9. Roll up on those fools ready to shed lead. Which way do you want your recoil going? Upwards? Or sideways.

          Rat-tat-tat.

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      I don’t even want to hear my conversation, I just have to - but someone else’s, wtf?

      It should become socially acceptable to slap their phones, maybe from bottom up for a greater comedic effect.

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      Probably around the pandemic when people became extra wary about hygiene - at least that’s my observation. I’ve also noticed that people listen to voice messages like this - if you’re in a loud environment and don’t have headphones, it kind of makes sense. It still looks stupid, and for normal phone calls it is stupid, since both the earpiece and the microphone are optimised for having the phone on your ear.

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        Before that, see it a lot in construction and in places with a lot of noise so you can’t hear off speaker

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      I am not ashamed to say I will talk on the phone like this often. I dont alway hold it to my mouth though just prefer more freedom with speaker phone. But I never do it in public

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        Right? I have another comment at -7 because it says you can hear the speakers better that way while driving.

        I get the speakerphone hate. But if someone is in their car that’s less annoying than blasting it through the stereo. So who cares how someone holds their phone in this scenario? Especially when there is an actual benefit to holding it that way.

        This entire post is the stupidest case of gatekeeping I’ve ever seen.

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      It’s because the speakers for the iPhone are on the bottom of the phone.

      Edit: I meant the speakers that are used for “hands free mode”, which is what the user in the image is doing. The reason why people hold their phone like this is because it directs the speaker sound straight at them (again, in hands free mode).

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        As a former iPhone repair technician, I can confirm this is both true and false at the same time. There’s a speaker in the normal position for the ear as well, it all depends whether the user decided to put the phone into loudspeaker mode.

        This comment coming from an Android user that’s just as guilty of this at times.

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    I call this “pizza phone” because it looks like they are eating their phone like a slice of pizza.

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    I see a lot of kids/teens walking around doing this.

    I think perhaps they don’t know how phones work as phones.

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      A couple weeks ago I saw a high schooler asking friends to grab his phone, but they couldn’t hear him. So he mimed typing with his thumbs.

      How did we lose holding a handset to your ear as the pantomime for phone??? I’ve heard Nirvana on the classic rock station and it didn’t make me feel as old as this.

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        Take your time, hurry up

        Choice is yours, don’t be late

        Take a rest as a friend

        As an old

        Memoria, memoria

        Memoria, memoria

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        My neice asked me “Dad says you only had internet on the phone when you were my age, but I also only have internet on my phone. I don’t get it.”

        That hurt me SO much.

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      They grew up with facetime, and this is how they translate that into a facetime without video

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      I do this, here’s why. Also I’m 23

      I don’t like getting oils and sweat on my screen. I also don’t like putting my dirty screen on my face.

      I can still talk to someone and do other stuff on my phone. If I want privacy or I’m in an area where speakerphone would be annoying then fine I’ll use it the old way, but generally I have headphones to bridge that gap anyways.

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        Yeah, I’m with you. Speaker mode is much more comfortable. But I do have some common courtesy while in public though. Nobody needs to be forced to hear your conversation.

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        You think your fingers don’t generate oils/sweat? You can have the phone next to your ear without having it pushing against the side of your head lol Multi-tasking makes sense though.

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      I think they often have earbuds but those usually have built in microphones so I don’t really know either, I think it’s popular when recording voice messages too.

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      I know the phone is designed for you to hold it a certain way, but don’t smartphones have the mic at the bottom next to the charge port?

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        I think the point is that the microphone should be close to your mouth, but not in the direction of your breath, so as to avoid pops. That’s why headsets have the microphone a few inches away from where your breath would go through.

        Hence, the preferred holding position would have both the speaker and microphone in optimal spots.

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        Yeah, and my tiny Nokia from 15 years ago also had a mic next to charger very very far from my mouth. Worked completely fine though, since it’s designed to do that.

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        google pixel 6 pro user here, nope, at the top, because fuck the consumers, that’s why

        on a more serious note, normally it doesnt pick up too much external audio but if i’m in a crowded place i have to turn it upside down and back up constantly to speak and then hear

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    ITT a bunch of fucking losers claiming to have hearing problems and would rather be a dick in public than invest in proper headphones.

    Note on the claim part, I don’t believe a fraction of the assholes here, just trying to justify their assholery. People with legitimate hearing issues tend to accept the support technology that’s readily available these days. I spend quite a bit of time around folks who are actually hard of hearing.

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      Even if they do have hearing issues, a phone pressed against your ear will sound much louder with much greater clarity compared to the speaker mode.

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          Which may be the case, but being immediately dismissive like you are isn’t exactly going to get them on your side now, is it?

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            There is no side, it’s a fact and if you can’t have some empathy for people with hearing issue then what can I say to change your mind?!

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              Well, the guy you are responding to is maybe only thinking of people whose hearing is diminished in some manner. Not people whose hearing is otherwise incapacitated through something like tinnitus or like the other poster in here who has auditory dyslexia. Both of whom may be inconvenienced by headphones or earbuds and have an easier time with speaker phone than those options. Maybe try to explain how you think they are being insensitive or lacking empathy rather than just accusing them of such without explanation.

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          I know right? Like how hearing aids are designed to be held a foot and a half from the head. These people need to be more sensitive

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      Add to that the amount of headphones out there that do help with various ear issues is growing and the prices are not that heavy.

      They have bone conduction ear phones now that can be picked up online. Your skull can hear for you now. This is the same technology as what hearing aids use and you can just wire it up as headphones to your phone now

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        They have bone conduction ear phones now that can be picked up online

        Yo, that’s dope. As someone who is partially deaf, but mostly hears fine, I’m curious about this.

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          I was just reading about these yesterday. They basically bypass your eardrum so they’re really good for people with hearing loss who still want to use headphones. Definitely check them out if you think they’ll work for you.

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          Yeah I saw several variances available on Amazon just in the past week. Might be worth checking out or seeing how they rate

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      When someone calls and I expect it to be 60 seconds or less, I don’t wanna go fumbling in my bag for 30 seconds to find the headphones and spend another 20 making sure they hook up to my phone properly.

      Plus, idk about hearing issues, but I have epilepsy and my seizures increase when I have long calls with the phone against my face OR with TWS earbuds in, which can apparently (and not too uncommonly) be triggered by the type of radiation they put off, even though it’s at very low levels. But just 3 inches further from my face and no problems. I know that’s not why a lot of people do it, and I still try not to in public, but there are various reasons that someone might.

      I am sure this will get downvoted to the lowest level of hell, but when it comes to people doing this without a medical reason/just based on preference, I also just don’t know why a minor annoyance triggers such major anger in others. If I’m on a train for an hour and someone is talking the whole time, that’s annoying no matter how they’re doing it. If I pass someone on speaker in the grocery store, I don’t really let that 12 seconds affect the rest of my day, certainly not enough to harbor such hot feelings about it.

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        You could have just swapped your first few lines for ’ I’m selfish and don’t care about others’.

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          Sure, but I’d honestly also rather hear both sides of a stranger’s conversation than just one. Doesn’t feel better to me to be talking just as loud on the phone but have it against your ear than a few inches away

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    In my defense, I’ve had a phone hang up or do weird stuff because it couldn’t tell the difference between a fingertip and an earlobe way too many times. Like, a shitty phone has nearly altered the course of my life because of this, and that’s not okay.

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      You should be able to hit the power button while on a call and turn off the display, then put it to your ear. Much less effort than the people around you have to make to keep from slapping you

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      It’s not just shitty phones, nice phones have this problem too.

      I cannot for the life of me find the earpiece on new phones, my face dials and hangs up and does all kinds of weird shit if I try to have a conversation on the phone the way you’re supposed to.

      It’s not my fault touch screens suck.

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    I do this when I’m on the phone and alone. Or I set my phone on my tits. But only when I am isolated. I don’t want to bother people with my phone on speaker.

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    Wow I almost feel singled out by this. But I presume that this is supposed to be in public. Which by every account is a dick move.

    However I do this in private, I.e. in my car or at home. And the reason I do it is because I can’t hear a call without using the speaker phone. Hearing issues aren’t fun.

    However the easier solution is headphones, but calls over Bluetooth can make things worse, from battery life to sound quality.

    Wired headphones are the preferable solution to this but we all know what happened to those.

    TL:DR I do this because of my hearing issues. In public this is a dick move, but headphones aren’t the solution they use to be.

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      but headphones aren’t the solution they use to be.

      Not true. There’s air conduction, bone conduction(which is the same technology for people who actually do experience hearing loss), wired, non wired, in ear, over ear, on ear, noise cancelling and these are not that expensive that you can get it online so it’s super accessible.

      It’s not the early 2000s anymore where you only get buds or on ear or whatever apple bullshit comes with your phone.

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        Agreed, though sadly this doesn’t apply to me. Hearing issues doesn’t always mean hearing loss. I have Auditory Processing Disorder or Auditory Dyslexia means my hearing is good, but I don’t always understand what people are saying.

        Speaker phone makes it easier for me to understand what the other person is saying. But again its a dick move to use it in public.

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          What happened when you tried the bone conducting type? What we’re your findings with this one?

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            I didn’t try those yet. I presume it wouldn’t be helpful since I need noise isolation and blocking. Not sure if they do that

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            I have noise cancelling Sony earbuds for a while now. At this point I’ve just gotten use to how people talk, and guessing at what they said and I missed.

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            Pretty much. The inability to filter voices from other noises. Not fun when you are on a bus and the engine is the only thing you can make out

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              And why I avoid noisy bars and stuff. I noticed once during the fire drill at work, we were all standing outside and the loud alarm was beeping like a truck backing up and the whole time I couldn’t make out what people were saying. I could hear the noises coming from their mouths, but couldn’t understand a thing.

              Alarm stopped and I could understand them fine.

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        People don’t have their headphones turned on and in easy reach at all times. If you’re doing this in a private space, who cares?

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          I don’t. I’m responding to the argument that headphones are not what they used to be. that is incorrect. There is more selection and varying types should one be selecting a pair.

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      I feel this too with the hearing issues, but I have moved away to texting rather than calls mostly. Social took a hit, but I’m still here anyways.

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      Wired headphones are the preferable solution to this but we all know what happened to those.

      What happened? I use wired headphones, haven’t had any problems recently.

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          Ohhh, I completely forgot iPhones no longer had those. Thanks for the reminder, I’ll remember to check for a headphone jack before buying a new phone.

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            The new iphones now have USB c so it’s not as bad as it use to be, since USB c dongles can be cross device compatible. But yeah it suuucks.

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            It’s not a mandatory feature for me personally, but I absolutely prefer having an actual headphone jack and die a little inside when a new phone doesn’t

            You can “get around” that by using a usb c to 3.5mm audio adaptor, or a y adaptor that’s a 3.5mm audio and another USBC to allow for charging at the same time

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    That’s not the normal way to talk when you are alone in the room?

    Guess no one will find out because I am alone.

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    I know this is a joke but if I found my match but they had a minor flaw I would probably try real hard to make it work and maybe even explain to them that their bad habit annoys me slightly. Nobody is perfect

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    What is worse is when people are wearing a Bluetooth headset and still holds their phone like this.

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      I remember my first time seeing someone use a Jabra bluetooth ear piece. 2003 in a college dorm, a girl was walking back and forth but her phone was probably in her hoodie. I was bewildered, wondering why she was talking aloud to herself.

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    I don’t get how they hear the other person, or are they on speaker mode?