I made my home here permanently now. It seems like such a friendlier place but how are you all doing?
Absolutely love it here. Kbin is awesome, and I love the fediverse. I’m way more about content creation here than I was on reddit because I want to be part of this. @ernest keeps making it better too.
I love interacting with all the instances and also I love the access to Mastodon content. I was never on Twitter or Mastodon before but now I follow these cool people I found from my community microblogs.
I never run out of internet, the fediverse has all I need. Yet, I feel more productive irl than I used to be.
A search result took me to reddit last week and was shocked by how many bots, shills, and just how much general anger and fighting is over there. Also they seem to have more dumb or trolling people than I remember.
That reddit blackout did me a huge favour. Never going back. The future is federated.
Is there a way you’re able to see both threads and microblogs, or do you just have to switch between the two?
The aggregate view is in preparation still.
Sounds good! Not a big priority, I just think it would be nice since kbin has access to both. Like others have said here, I appreciate the work you’re doing!
@livus@kbin.social
kbin’s search function is remarkable: you can discover content on the fedi which otherwise remains beneath the surface@testing yeah I like that too. Sometimes when I’m looking for a community I accidentally use the general search instead of the magazine search and end up down all these rabbit holes!
On the whole, Kbin and the wider fediverse have been great! I feel that I’ve been able to engage a lot more meaningfully with others here, though that’s likely due to it being relatively small. Likewise, I’ve been posting a lot more to help this place grow, which has been great.
The whole decentralization aspect is particularly great. From Kbin, I can view threads from other Lemmy & Kbin instances as well as microblogs from Mastodon instances, and it’s great to be able to view all of those in one place with Kbin’s UI.
All of that being said, there are definitely some growing pains, primarily related to activity. Outside of general communities on big Lemmy instances, people don’t post much. This is the case with any social media site — way more people are willing to view or even engage with content than to post it — but I can’t help but wish that some of the people voting and commenting on posts would also make some of their own and contribute to magazines. Often, this is due to people just not having ideas for what to post (speaking from experience), but I think a lot of it is people just not thinking to post that cool thing they saw somewhere else or on another magazine.
There are also a lot features that have yet to be implemented on Kbin. Microblog federation is very poor, there isn’t a built-in subscriptions panel, the image UI in post creation provides no visual feedback, you can’t follow tags as useful as it would be, moderation is still limited unless you’re the owner and have access to the magazine panel, etc. Of course, Ernest et al. can only work so quickly, and the progress that has been made so far is great — for example, the crossposting UI is awesome and has helped me discover more magazines — but the lack of features does still impact the experience regardless of what can be done about it.
Kbin is great, and I’m hoping that development continues at the current pace. Above all, I’m hoping that a few more people here decide to post a bit more regularly or at all.
Haven’t even directed my browser to reddit since migrating to kbin in June, but it’s never fulfilled the same dopamine hit for me. I’ve supplanted my online addiction with YouTube now, which because of what I flit past and what I actually pay attention to has been extremely educational because of the algorithm!
Pretty early on, I ended up becoming the head moderator for a magazine on kbin, which then made me feel an ethical sort of guilt about commenting there anymore, so really the only place I wanted to be part of the dialogue is now gone for me here on kbin. Our magazine has a much larger mirror community on lemmyworld, so our magazine is barely holding on by a thread even after an initial burst of new subscribers. Discussion is almost non-existent in the magazine, and I’m not sure if it’s because we tried to instate common-sense community guidelines early, or if because we missed the momentum of growing userbase after the rexxit since most people migrated to lemmyworld instead of kbin.
I’m not even sure why I keep my account. (I know I sound like Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh in this post.)
I understand the issue, the changes in the federation /kbin that will occur in the coming weeks / months will make the magazines much more visible in the broader fediverse. This could be a complete gamechanger.
Ah - yikes. I was really not anticipating you seeing my mini pity party here, ernest. I know you and the team have been really working hard on kbin and I’ve seen massive changes with the modding panel and functions as a result of the latest instance update. I have a ton of respect for what you all are accomplishing on the fediverse and I was originally a very vocal early adopter after the first reddit migration in June. I trust that you all are shouldering a major responsibility with this instance, and I’m grateful for the fediverse at the very least. I hope when you read this you didn’t get the sense that I had any criticisms of kbin as the particular user interface I use for the fediverse - just that even across the federated instances (mostly lemmyworld), my ability to doom scroll for hours a day outpaces the userbase.
I think I feel a personal sense of failure(?) or disappointment(?) that I wasn’t able to usher in a similar sense of community and activity to the sub I moderate compared to reddit. I think moving over here, it felt like my sub would be the natural beneficiary of inheriting the volume of users and content that existed on reddit, but our mirror community on lemmyworld got the lion’s share and it isn’t even scratching former reddit heyday numbers. Also, the people in their community are… suspect. I don’t care for the comments section.
I hope you didn’t take umbrage to my comment. I’m eager to see what new features the kbin dev team will roll out.
Oh, come on, I’m not that sensitive ;-) Constructive criticism helps me set goals, prioritize tasks on my board, and broaden my horizons when it comes to the overall experience with the platform. I really appreciate that. The fact is that Lemmy had a lot more time. I remember when they started federation tests, I was writing my first line of code. Some things just need time to mature. For me, it’s not a race. I simply have a clear goal that I’m determined to achieve - to create a solid, accessible platform that others can benefit from and enjoy. Who knows, maybe it’ll become the best in the entire fediverse someday ;-) Now, after the break, I’ll be working on federation but also on customizing the feed to tailor it as much as possible to individual needs. Cheers!
My man, you’re straight up fighting it up there with one of the largest websites on the internet with vastly more resources and you’re delivering. You deserve the praise and encouragement.
@HandsHurtLoL wait, are mods not meant to comment? I’m doing it wrong.
Edit: nvm, you’re modding politics, I can see why you’d need to remain neutral for that.
Yeah, it’s a 100% self-imposed moratorium just because I don’t want to appear to have a modding bias. There was a period where I was trying to enliven the community by posting a few articles each day, especially from sources not submitted to our mirror community on lemmyworld, but then my real life job was draining my soul for 3 straight months, so that endeavor fell by the wayside. Also, unless it’s an article dumping on one key player, our user base doesn’t tend to comment on news articles. It’s a weird phenomenon I’ve observed.
I will add though that my hobby communities that I belong to never make it to my feed, which seems to imply that those communities are stagnant, too. I would probably comment more in those spaces, but it’s rare that new threads are created, I guess.
I wish you would comment. Contributors in the sub aren’t following the rules very well. I contributed pretty often, however I’ve slacked off since the beginning of October. The Israel/Palestine conflict has really taken over my feed (as well as some Trek and Star Wars memes). Yet with the Middle East news it’s been difficult posting for some reason. My activity has been diminished severely.
I still comment a fair bit just from sorting by all > new. But yeah we’re still in the early days comment-wise. The magazine I created almost never gets any comments or posts but there are a few lurkers who upvote and it slowly grows.
I’ve recently taken on a couple that were stagnating due to absentee mods and it’s going slowly, but I still think it’s important for kbin to have our own chill communities on these topics rather than outsourcing it all to the lemmys.
You must be doing something right, because I’m pretty sure I noticed your mag in my feed the other day which made me realise it’s active. (I contributed an article but unfortunately it’s on NZ politics because that’s the only one I follow)!
It definitely feels like the kbin hosted magazines that have overlap with Lemmy magazines are struggling to get attention/engagement. I think part of it is just that so many people are over there and don’t look at federated content, so more kbin users don’t bother with contributing to our own magazines.
I’m not sure what the answer is to fix that, or if it’s even something that needs to be fixed since we federation we’re still receiving and engaging in content. Would love to see more activity on our home turf though.
I still use Reddit a bit (on desktop only), mostly to check on some niche communities that aren’t really on the Fediverse yet, but Kbin has been very nice also. It’s nice and chill, and overall a lot less fascist/bigot friendly, which is refreshing.
Nice Kingdom Come Deliverance profile pic btw
niche communities with activity is what’s really lacking here, would make all the difference. though, when attempting to fill those niches, which i have attempted, it seems there’s not many people around who are interested.
Thanks :)
There is so much less pretentious misleading alienated crap here. Love that. I’d like some more non-repost interesting videos, that’s something I miss… But totally worth the tradeoff of not getting pissed at how dumb of shit you can post and still get positive mass response. Plus the feed here has an end. No more oops I spent an hour looking at shit
Just gonna use this to not offtopic everyone: How come I can sometimes not see up/downvotes but only that global score in the upper right corner?
@kwomp it might depend on the instance that hosts the community and/or you?
Votes are not treated the same way across the fediverse and we’re not actually all seeing the same vote scores.
For example, beehaw doesn’t have downvotes, full stop. Kbin has downvotes but doesn’t federate them - if you downvote me I won’t see it, and vice versa.
I still end up having to use reddit to get questions answered, but I still have not contributed any content to the site since the exodus. Hell, I haven’t bothered to log back into my account in ages. It doesn’t feel the same, but my scrolling has more or less been supplanted by Kbin and Youtube.
I’m mostly just happy to be off reddit, the blackout day showed me how much of a compulsive behaviour looking at reddit had become and since then I started reducing my time there before dropping it entirely when the API changes kicked in. Thankfully I’ve also managed to not replace it with a Fediverse compulsion and so I actually have time to do stuff I enjoy rather than just doomscrolling. Frankly I kinda wish reddit had done it sooner
I really like it here on Kbin, and I’m on here daily :-)
I don’t really use Reddit anymore; I usually only check Reddit if there is something I need help with or to look up something specificthere’s enough here i only end up on that other site if a web search takes me there (using the ‘old’ redirect addon, plus ad and script blockers), or for one specific sub for which there isn’t an alternative (and i lurk only now, and far less frequently).
I’ve only ever lurked on reddit and here I’m actually interacting, which I enjoy. Still, the feddiverse would profit from some more users and content creators, and it doesn’t really have an advertisment budget. So keep telling your friends (in a non-anoying way, of course).
Yes, somehow the barrier to actually engaging with others is lost in the fediverse. The guilt of posting on Reddit has been swapped by some strange feeling of obligation and/or pride when posting on here.
Knowing that your interaction doesn’t boost the engagement numbers of a profit-oriented megacorp definitely helps.
Most of the magazines I subscribed are dead. The very few that post stuff receive no comments, I general everything is pretty dead
I spend most of my time on here browsing through All - as long as you’re willing to wade through Linux and Star-trek memes, there’s still an awful lot to see in the Fediverse.
I don’t think the Fediverse is populated enough at the moment that niche subs can be as active as they were on Reddit. Best you can for now is keep your niche alive and spread the word of it’s existence
I made an effort to interact with one community in particular to get it going and it actually started getting a tad more lively recently. So maybe there’s hope if we play our parts.
groovy. i am enjoying my federation project.
For my day to day time wasting, kbin and the fediverse is enough. But if I need help with anything, I’m extremely lucky if there is anything at all.
I enjoy being here. I already forgot Reddit and only stumble on it occasionally when it appears in a search result on DDG. Keep strong Lemmy!
Missing all my niche subs, but resisting the temptation to go back.
Why not open them on here?
So much less clickbait and spam on Lemmy/kbin*, and what there is gets called out quickly. On reddit, I would open dozens of tabs a day, hoping for 5 or so articles worth reading and/or relavent comment threads.
Here, sorting through the cruft is much easier, and I end almost every day with zero new tabs left open, because I’m actually reading what I open without exhausting my attention-span or patience for bullshit.
*Although I sort by new and look only at my subbed feed, I am following hundreds of communities. As I picked a Dutch instance, following a few Machinist communities that migrated here, Local is a grab-bag of a few niche things I like, things I can’t read, and/or news that is mostly irrelavent to me to the point I have no context or frame-of-reference for it.
Honestly, I prefer this. I never meant to let reddit content grab as much of my time and attention as it had over the years.
