• bouh@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    And some people will point at people individual choices rather than the corporations and states who promoted this lifestyle.

    What pisses me the most about ecologists nowadays is how liberals they are. If you want to feel good about yourself, feel free, but don’t pretend all people are responsible for climate change by themselves because they’re eating meat.

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      11 months ago

      Systems can be broken and incentivise poor behaviour while individual actions also make a difference.

      Besides, where will your political change come from? people who wont even change their diet? Just like how all those environmental protections were brought into being by people who criticised the people chaining themselves to trees for thinking individual actions mattered?

      The meat industry is terrified of vegans, they spend millions rewriting laws and producing propaganda to limit us. maybe they have reasons why.

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        One place individual action worked was when people started making a thing of divesting from coal power plants. It worked because the pension funds followed the popular lead. With investors fleeing it is hard for coal power plants to maintain themselves, jars to get loans. It shortened many power plants’ lives significantly

        Where it hasn’t worked: recycling

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        11 months ago

        The industry loves vegans. It is an extremely profitable industry because those people are wealthier than average and already fanatised for their products. You’re a fool if you think you’re fighting the industry. You merely fight one industry for the benefit of another one.

        The meat industry is fine. The terrified ones are the stupid conservative. But are they stupid or terrified? They’re merely using the vegan propaganda against them.

        And oh boy is it easy to do! Vegans are already full fanatics about their ideology. It’s a full blown religion at this point : either you are vegan or a heretic causing the end of the world. If you’re not vegan, you are personally responsible for the climate change. Isn’t this the point of this article?

        Conservative have nothing to do to make propaganda against this. Ecologists are as fascists as the fascists themselves, but in a green color.

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          11 months ago

          Well I’m not gonna hold my breath waiting for whatever change you’re willing into being by tweeting about how nobody should do anything until somebody starts the glorious revolution.