Generally, people like to chat to other people using their phones. And generally, people aren’t going to install a new messenger app just for you.
Sure, you could convince them to install Signal, after a couple of weeks. But most likely, they’ll just discuss things in the old iMessage group without you every now and then, because that’s what they use for literally everything else.
You could add an Android phone to an iMessage group, which disables encryption and forces everyone to fall back to MMS, a protocol that was bad at its job decades ago when it was first designed. Blurry, tiny pictures, and often lacks the ability to text while only connected to WiFi because of weird carrier stuff.
In areas where MMS has been disabled by carriers (like where I live), SMS groups are basically a copy of every message sent to every other person, and multimedia support is nonexistent. No GIFs, no attachments, only text, and it takes a moment for every message to get sent.
Most people I know are on WhatsApp. I dislike WhatsApp, but if I uninstall it, I just can’t chat to most of my family anymore. My previous attempt to try to get them to install Signal for me failed, and I don’t think my next attempt will succeed. At least WhatsApp is more secure than something like SMS or RCS (the RCS that iPhones will eventually get, not the RCS that only works between Androids) but the reality is that there’s just no getting around other people when it comes to chatting with them.
Crazy this is like needing Whatsapp on steroids. Literally needing such a crap locked down tracking device just because the US doesnt have the balls to force apple to open up
Mate, I’ve never once been pressured to use an iPhone in the states. Not sure what any of that has to do with international travel where chat platforms are phone-agnostic. No one using whatsapp cares about my Pixel.
It’s not international travel. I live with my wife in her country. International calling and texting is expensive.
So I can just get a use an iPhone with iMessage or convince my immediate and extended family and professional contacts to use a different chatting app.
or convince my immediate and extended family and professional contacts to use a different chatting app.
I’m sure at least your family will happily just install Signal, WhatsApp or so in order to avoid excessive monetary cost to you. What kind of family wouldn’t?
It very clearly does. If they can’t get all their contacts on other chat apps because they’re on iPhones then how could you possibly say it has nothing to do with iPhones?
But imessenger works over the internet. It’s not an SMS service so the carrier has nothing to do with it. im in tons of groupchats with imessenger recipients. never had a problem except with apple purposefully downgrading all media. my phone has wifi calling so I can receive my sms messages anywhere I can get service.
Their point was they don’t want to deal with the carrier so they want to message over data. However the people the wish to contact don’t have chat apps so they use iMessage. Yes obviously they should just download another app but you can’t force someone to do that.
That’s a carrier feature. I can message anyone anywhere with anything I want. Has nothing to do with iPhone. I just group texted all my iphone friends from Firefox on my PC.
iMessage does not exist in Europe. I have never ever seen someone use it.
I hate that it’s used so heavily in the states. It’s the biggest reason that I’m still using an iPhone over Android.
I live internationally and it’s too difficult to convince my contacts to switch. Just not worth the trouble.
Why you let people decide for you what phone you use? I moved here and every single one of my friends have WhatsApp even though they use iPhone.
Generally, people like to chat to other people using their phones. And generally, people aren’t going to install a new messenger app just for you.
Sure, you could convince them to install Signal, after a couple of weeks. But most likely, they’ll just discuss things in the old iMessage group without you every now and then, because that’s what they use for literally everything else.
You could add an Android phone to an iMessage group, which disables encryption and forces everyone to fall back to MMS, a protocol that was bad at its job decades ago when it was first designed. Blurry, tiny pictures, and often lacks the ability to text while only connected to WiFi because of weird carrier stuff.
In areas where MMS has been disabled by carriers (like where I live), SMS groups are basically a copy of every message sent to every other person, and multimedia support is nonexistent. No GIFs, no attachments, only text, and it takes a moment for every message to get sent.
Most people I know are on WhatsApp. I dislike WhatsApp, but if I uninstall it, I just can’t chat to most of my family anymore. My previous attempt to try to get them to install Signal for me failed, and I don’t think my next attempt will succeed. At least WhatsApp is more secure than something like SMS or RCS (the RCS that iPhones will eventually get, not the RCS that only works between Androids) but the reality is that there’s just no getting around other people when it comes to chatting with them.
Crazy this is like needing Whatsapp on steroids. Literally needing such a crap locked down tracking device just because the US doesnt have the balls to force apple to open up
Mate, I’ve never once been pressured to use an iPhone in the states. Not sure what any of that has to do with international travel where chat platforms are phone-agnostic. No one using whatsapp cares about my Pixel.
It’s not international travel. I live with my wife in her country. International calling and texting is expensive.
So I can just get a use an iPhone with iMessage or convince my immediate and extended family and professional contacts to use a different chatting app.
It’s just easier to use an iPhone.
I’m sure at least your family will happily just install Signal, WhatsApp or so in order to avoid excessive monetary cost to you. What kind of family wouldn’t?
It’s more about professional contacts.
Use email
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I like email
Business communication happens over email and Teams. Arrive in the real world before making disrespectful and clueless comments.
What you said has nothing to do with an iphone.
It very clearly does. If they can’t get all their contacts on other chat apps because they’re on iPhones then how could you possibly say it has nothing to do with iPhones?
What does a contact list have to do with a phone? Does the iPhone lock you out of even proper contact management?
No, contacts as in the people they want to contact.
What does that have to do with the phone they own? I still don’t get it.
Ok
It does when it is one person trying to get a group of people trying to switch platforms.
But imessenger works over the internet. It’s not an SMS service so the carrier has nothing to do with it. im in tons of groupchats with imessenger recipients. never had a problem except with apple purposefully downgrading all media. my phone has wifi calling so I can receive my sms messages anywhere I can get service.
Their point was they don’t want to deal with the carrier so they want to message over data. However the people the wish to contact don’t have chat apps so they use iMessage. Yes obviously they should just download another app but you can’t force someone to do that.
That’s a carrier feature. I can message anyone anywhere with anything I want. Has nothing to do with iPhone. I just group texted all my iphone friends from Firefox on my PC.
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I use Google Voice to text people
It’s definitely prevelant in the UK. Although not as much as in the USA by far.