• lledrtx@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    “AI” researcher here. The only reason there are models that can “write” and “create art” is because that data is available for training. Basically people put massive amounts of digital text and images on the Internet and the companies scraped all of it to train the models. If there were big enough datasets for ship building, that would happen too…

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      9 months ago

      Besides, what the guy is yapping about it is 80% a robotics problem not an AI problem. It’s apples and oranges.

      He’s essentially saying why can Will Smith finally eat pasta normally while we still don’t have the robotic workforce from the 2001 Will Smith movie “I, Robot”.

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      9 months ago

      Not really. You would still need to, you know, build drones or automated factories to actually perform the salvaging. But the point is that nobody DID, because capitalism values profit over human life. Nobody who “matters” is interested in solving that problem.

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        9 months ago

        Actually that’s not true at all, there’s lots of interest in robotics (check out Boston Dynamic) but it’s a really really hard problem. The main issue is developing a controlling intelligence sophisticated enough to be able to use the robot to do a diverse range of tasks. The actual physical mechanical building of the robot isn’t that hard.

        Of course the way you get that controlling intelligence is AI. So he is complaining about people developing a solution to the problem he’s demanding that they solve. He’s not happy because they’re not magically skipping steps.

        This idiot wants fully sapient robots without developing AI in the first place, not sure how on earth he expects that to happen.

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          9 months ago

          I think you’re underestimating the mechanical and chemistry problems that still need to be solved before autonomous robots that can perform a task like ship salvage effectively. There’s a very good reason that basically all industrial robots spend their lives plugged into a wall socket.

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            9 months ago

            I feel like maybe you didn’t understand the point I was making, which was the hardest part is the AI. Since everything else is easy because once you have the AI you automatically have all your other problems solved.

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            9 months ago

            Ah you’re right, Boston Dynamic’s Spot robot tours entire factories and refineries all while being plugged into a wall socket!

      • lledrtx@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        Not true. We have capable robots now. See Boston Dynamics like the other commenter said. Plus we have had industrial robots making cars and stuff forever now. To make robots that can handle a wide variety of things (every ship is bound to be different) is hard and we don’t have data to train such models (see reinforcement learning, imitation learning, “sim2real” problem etc)