• Maestro@fedia.io
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    10 months ago

    I never understood why people run Ubuntu on servers. It’s madness. Ubuntu is a fork of unstable Debian packages. You don’t want unstable on your server!

    Ubuntu on Desktop I can understand. Back in the days the Debian release was really long so much software was a tad outdated after a couple of years. But Debian had a much faster release cycle now, and had pretty much incorporated all the good stuff from Ubuntu and left the bad behind.

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      10 months ago

      Ubuntu is a fork of unstable Debian packages

      And where do you think debian stable packages come from exactly ?..

      it’s basicaly the exact same thing. In both case :

      • At some point freeze unstable (snapshot unstable in case of ubuntu),
      • fix bugs found in the frozen set of packages,
      • release as stable.
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      10 months ago

      Ubuntu on Desktop I can understand.

      Not anymore. A whole extra, unneeded, proprietary, locked-in package system. Ads in the default install.

      There’s Mint, Pop!, and plenty of other options that actually respect the user.

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        10 months ago

        Definitely. But back in the day it was good for desktops. Ubuntu has never been good for servers.

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      10 months ago

      It was awesome back when during the install you could just select “LAMP”, and a full stack web server suite would be automatically set up and configured correctly out of the box. But those days are long gone.

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        A lot of distributions do that. OpenSuSE does that. And at least it’s the kind of industrial rated system that will just keep chugging along no matter what you throw at it.

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          Yeah now they do. Back in the early 2000s, I only remember Ubuntu having just a single option to install everything needed to be up and running on first boot. Everything else needed some tweaking of configs and quite a bit of domain knowledge to get started at the time. It’s what jumpstarted me into PHP development.

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      10 months ago

      Mhm I have Ubuntu LTS on my server because my VPS provider provided me with it. :/

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      10 months ago

      You don’t want unstable on your server!

      “But they are maintaiend for 5 years!”