• 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 months ago

    Arch is just as easy to install with a smaller ISO and a faster installer. Advertising EndeavourOS to inexperienced users will also lead to issues due to incompatibilities with the wiki due to dracut, the systemd firewall, and potentially systemd-boot.

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      7 months ago

      First of all: it’s a joke.

      Second of all: no, Arch is not as easy to install, specially for someone who is looking at Manjaro as a possibility.

      And believe me, I was once a Manjaro user.

      And for 99% of Manjaro users, what they really wanted was Arch with an installer. Which is what Endeavour OS is. (Although I’ll never understand why Endeavour people didn’t just develop the tools FOR Arch instead of wrapping it all up as their own).

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        7 months ago

        Current (1,5 years in) Manjaro user here. If I’d want just an installer for Arch, I’d go with Archinstall. And I doubt I’m 1%, though nice installer might be a selling point for absolute Linux noobs.

        There is plenty of experienced people using Manjaro and recognizing its strong and weak sides.

        And yes, I don’t understand EndeavourOS as a separate distribution either.

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            7 months ago

            People who are are not able to use or dislike a TUI install script should not be using Arch or an Arch based distro. Especially when taking into account that EndeavourOS doesn’t have a GUI package manager.

            At least Manjaro has a point with it’s slower repos and pamac.

            EndeavorOS is just Arch with Calamares, some welcome window bloat, and pacman hooks to have it be distinguished from Arch by neofetch; all at the cost of the install duration: the download is slower, the flashing is slower, the boot is slower, the installer is slower, even pacman is slower due to the hooks.

            You can just download in ISO of Arch with Calamares instead, if you really want it (example)

            EndeavorOS does not contribute anything to make the install process easier nor to the experience using it. Why it is still so popular after the reintroduction of archinstall really remains a mystery to me. I really only view it as a security risk due to the smaller team.