Tiktok cements it’s #1 status
Holy shit, three of the top five downloaded apps are within the Facebook ecosystem (Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram).
And further down you have Messenger and WhatsApp Business, also from Facebook (I refuse to call them Meta).
That’s really awful.
How fucked we are
SHEIN on #19 is one of the worst apps for the planet due to slave labor and cheap clothes which are meant to be trashed instead of washed.
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People never learn. Until regulation kicks in and forces walled garden operators to interoperate, we’re stuck with walled gardens.
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Telegram is even worse than WhatsApp and that’s actually painfull to say.
Note: WhatsApp should be obliterated from earth with a flamethrower. (Facebook too & a long list…)
Telegram client is open source, WhatsApp client is not. Telegram has a client for Linux desktop, WhatsApp doesn’t.
I don’t understand the Telegram hate.
Thing with Telegram is that end-to-end encryption is not enabled by default (thus only used rarely) and Telegram doesn’t really have any viable business model, besides being funded by a billionaire. That raises some questions. I really like Telegram, though.
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I would really like if Telegram goes 100% FOSS
Their client software is open source and also on F-Droid and Flathub.
Server-side is not FOSS.
Even if it was open source, how would we know they were really running what they shared?
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Signal is still a US-based entity, so I’m hesitant to recommend them to anyone
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I agree, we need something with the security level of signal and with the hability to federate. Or even better, make it P2P.
That’s the problem with every open source application or software, actually.
Flathub isn’t open source though.
isn’t it? I thought that was the whole point of “snaps bad, flatpak good” thing.
When I install flathub repository on Fedora, I’m warned that it is non-free. There is a Fedora flatpak repository, but it doesn’t have as many packages.
I logged into telegram today and found that all my data had been deleted because I hadn’t used it in 6 months. Like I get why that feature might be desirable in some circumstances but for me, I’m not using end-to-end encryption because I’m sharing state secrets that need to self destruct upon opening - I just don’t want the middlemen.
I’ve been looking into alternatives like Matrix/Element, XMPP etc - it sounds like Element might be easier to get non-techy friends to adopt but it, from my understanding, has a fairly power hungry mobile app.
FluffyChat is a less power hungry alternative to Element. The reason these use so much battery is that they constantly check for new messages and don’t do it over the privacy infringing Google cloud messaging services, also known as Firebase Cloud Messaging (FCM), if it’s Android. These are integrated into the system and work a bit more efficiently.
Conversations is pretty user-friendly (XMPP front-end). Just sign up, then log in, like email. End-to-end encryption with groups is still as janky as a Windows XP server, but if you don’t need that, then it’s fine.
The more direct competition to telegram is signal imo. It has a limit of 1k users versus the like 30k in telegram but otherwise pretty feature parity.
For good reason. Out of all the messenger apps I’ve tried - open source, decentralised, or stuff like whatsapp - Telegram is THE best one imo. Fast as hell, great UI/UX, lots of customisation, nice features, and good bot support.
I know some people dislike Telegram here, but among centralised apps their philosophy and track record is pretty decent imo
