• Martín@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    So much wrong about this chart. It is factually correct, but it answers the wrong question.

    This chart makes it way too easy to optimise for cheap protein, which is misleading. It is not this what it takes to have a healthy organism. It takes a varied diet, with balanced quantities of liquids (see milk), vitamins (see sprouts), fatty acids (see salmon), minerals (see shrimps, eggs, walnuts), actually carbs (potatoes, rice, spaghetti), and much more…

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      6 months ago

      Most crucially, the graph is an oversimplification of protein content. Legumes do not contain the full amino acid chain unlike meat. Non-meats need to be evaluated with the nuance of its nutrients not necessarily being as bio-available for human digestion. Carrots and Vitamin A, for example.

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        6 months ago

        Thank you for saying this. The PDCAAS shows the digestible properties of different protein sources. It would be a good multiplicative factor for the X-Axis to make the sources comparable, since Cow’s Milk, Chicken, Egg, Whey, Casein, Tuna and Soy Protein (Isolate) have a score of 1 while Lentils, Tofu, Rice and Wheat have roughly 0,5.

        That means you need to eat (and buy and cook) twice the amount of the latter to gain roughly the amount of actionable protein of the former.

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        I’ve had to debunk this myth multiple times in this post already, I’m not sure who started it. Legumes do have all the aminos and in sufficient amounts.

        Also on bioavailability, it is a double edged sword. For example heme uptake is greater than mineral iron, but your body has very little control with inhibiting uptake when you already have adequate levels. With the mineral form your body has various ways to promote or inhibit uptake. The same is true of your example of vitamin A. You can pretty much eat as many carrots as you want and suffer no ill effects, eating too much liver or taking too many liver oil supplements however can lead to poisoning.

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        6 months ago

        Your seem to insist to twist this towards vegan wars, but this is you. It’s not the graphics, it’s not me.

        • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
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          6 months ago

          There is no conflict here and no war. You made the false claim that for a balanced diet, animal parts are required. I corrected you, that’s it.

          • half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world
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            Animal liquid somehow turns into gastrointestinal distress for me, and like 60% of the world. Maybe the diarrhea argument would help. Wield it carefully.

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            6 months ago

            I guess you misunderstood my providing illustrative examples in parentheses. Replace or remove the examples, the argument is still valid.

            In another subthread they’ve pointed out that processing food also changes its protein density, most obviously by water transfer.