If I understand Lemmy correctly, you can create duplicate communities on different instances. Isn’t this kinda counter productive because this may lead to less user interaction in those communities, because the user base gets split up between competing communities.

Is there a way to fight this division of the (small) userbase or is this effect even desired because it leads to more tight knit communities on the different instances?

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    I think this is desired. Lemme give my case. I think r/historymemes is absolutely flooded with racism, tankies and neo-nazis, and perhaps more than the rest, colonial apologia. Reddit being centralised, I can’t create another r/historymemes.

    Say we have a c/historymemes in some instance. The same racism and shit happens. No problem, I can look for a new c/historymemes on some other instance that is better moderated in regards to those problems.

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      ‘Stop asking this’ is not a really helpful thing to say. We have a lot of new users, including myself, and everybody is figuring out how Lemmy works. Redundant questions will occur and lets answer those in a respectful manner.

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      Reddit does not have the problem in the exact same way. To have to articulate the nuance would be exhausting and clearly not productive. Please continue to ask that question until this community has a valid answer.

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        Thanks for your answer with zero contribution. Reddit and lemmy may not have the problem in the exact same way, but they are effectively the same. Whether it’s r/technology vs. r/tech or technology@lemmy.ml vs. technology@lemmy.world doesn’t matter to normal users.

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    Duplication happens on Reddit too. It’s not intrinsically bad and has some good aspects.

    Community diversity can allow for diversity in moderation, sub-culture, vibes etc.

    I think a good balance can be reached here on the #threadiverse/#fediverse (ie, with decentralisation).

    The real question isn’t whether it will be good/bad … it’s what we can do to make it as good as possible. The key issues are around searching and surfacing communities. The lemmy software can get better in this regard. Some basic third party tools like what feddit.de have made can also help.

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      I often preferred using the alternate/splinter versions of many reddit subs. When a sub got too large, the quality went down fast. I think the redundancy is maybe a good thing.

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      I think critical mass is needed for certain communities, and user splitting is bad for that.

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        In the early days during growth, yes I think you’re right. Adds to the frustration of people learning about federation and all that to.

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    Yea, it’s an endless debate lately.

    Just subscribe to everything, and use your judgment where to post if you post. We can already see some clear bias towards the largest ones so it’s possible the small clones will be left behind.

    Or not and dupes will remain. Wait and sew after things settle down a bit.

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    I suspect it doesn’t really matter - users can see all of the communities across all of the instances when they search, and they can choose which ones are of interest to them.

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      it matters a lot. if something is happening you want a quick overview of big discussion and not jump between a bunch of 10 small discussion rooms.

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    I don’t really see the issue. I’ve subscribed to Technology maybe 4 times now? All that means is I get more tech in my feed. It doesn’t really matter which specific community it is, does it? If there is an interesting tech-related story or news item I’m bound to get it on one of them, or all of them, and each post might have its own insightful comments on the subject. It’s just more content and more opportunity for discussion. I think Lemmy will excel at bringing forward content in this way because you can sub to many different communities around a singular topic. You’ll never be limited to just one place like a subreddit with mods who shape the content you get to see. If any one community started to be artificially controlled like this, there are 3 more who aren’t.