• accideath@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    In Europe everyone uses WhatsApp and I‘d rather use iMessage than sell my soul to meta… (Which I am. And Signal and Telegram. Only using WhatsApp for work)

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      6 months ago

      I live in Poland, and most people use Meta’s Messenger here, although some people use WhatsApp and some also Telegram (but mostly Ukrainians and Belarusians).

      Personally I use regular old plain SMS, Messenger, Telegram or Discord depending on situation.

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        6 months ago

        Ah yes, Facebook Messenger. The only chat app I’d hate using even more than WhatsApp…

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      6 months ago

      Unfortunately, I don’t trust Apple either. I think Telegram or Signal might be a good option, but then again. They are just a CEO away from it being shitty.

      I wish there was a better solution that is OSS but it won’t catch on.

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        6 months ago

        I trust them a bit more than meta or google. Meta‘s main business model is selling data/ads. Apple’s main business model is selling hardware.

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          6 months ago

          I think they sell the perception of privacy. They might not sell your data, but they certainly use that data to sell to you. They only care about profits and any privacy that you think you might have is just a byproduct of that greed.

          Apple is an optics company and damn good at it too.

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            6 months ago

            I know Apple aren’t perfect but they are the only major tech company that even try to seem like they take privacy seriously. Obviously, we don’t know how much data they actually harvest but at least they say it’s all private and on device. They make a believable case for their product actually being their hardware. You even pay extra for that. Meta, Google, Microsoft & Co. are pretty open, that all they want is your data and that you are the product. So, unless you want to go the extra mile and actively pursue privacy (get ungoogled android or a Linux phone, and only use open source software, etc.), Apple seems to be your best bet, imo

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              6 months ago

              Normies will use Apple because they claim to have privacy in their forefront. Nerds like me degoogle and don’t use social media(unless you count this… What is Lemmy?).

              It’s easier to go Apple. Difficult to use Android and own your privacy.

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            6 months ago

            I think they’re working on that but yea like all open source software it’s a bit janky of a user experience.

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              6 months ago

              Ya, I tried it. Not great. I also tried the Synology Chat which is basically slack.

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      6 months ago

      European here, this is just wrong, I don’t use WhatsApp, nor does my friends or family

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        6 months ago

        Everyone was an exaggeration, obviously. WhatsApp is still very prominent and the primary messaging service in large parts of Europe.